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Journals / Ordeals / Re: First XXX
« on: December 04, 2012, 08:35:20 PM »

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Very interesting.

My last Kambo experience was thoroughly EPIC.  It was 2 hours of intensity full on Kambo.  The final culmination was in about 15 minutes of purging a very dark red almost black substance.  The build up to this coming out was so intense like I was about to birth something.  When it came out the relief was cathartic to say the least.  I should say when the final one came out, there was about 4 or 5 purges of this dark red substance.  First time I purged this exact color.  I have purged dark black oil like stuff but this was different. 

Sorry for missing this thread.  For me the spiritual significance has been freedom and happiness.  Also my signing ability has been deepened to my core in both deep notes and high notes.  Dancing more flexible, more fearless.  This was the highest Kambo experience I have had.  It hit me very quickly and I put my head back and saw the most incredible fractals.  If it could be tapped into the visionary abilities of Kambo would take the world by storm.  Hopefully with the likes of the visionaries on this forum we can discover how to manifest (without so much pain and ordeal) the visionary abilities of Kambo. 

I'm much more in line with the African/Iboga lore than a physical one.  After all the physical one would still need a spiritual explanation.  Scientists seem to miss this. 

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I'm well overdue on making this thread as it had been my intention to do so right off.  I have noticed sizable differences in doing a thorough enema flush (3 times a bag with 1.5 liters each is what I'm subjectively referring to), versus when I do no enema at all.  It is a tangible difference and without a doubt a requirement for me anymore.  What it seems to do is clear out all passage ways allowing the Kambo to work direct on the Gut (Spirit brain?).  The gut wrenching pain is far more fierce by and large and the overall strength of the deep purges is greater.  More likely to purge far beyond the early yellow biles.  Seems to dig in right off, straight and exact contact.

For my enemas I first make a strong tea with Guayusa, Senna Pods, Cancer Bush Root (Sutherlandia Frutescens) ---(those are the 3 staples I always use) and a combination of Cat's Claw, Kola Nut, Cacao, Sangre De Drago drops, Sea Salt, MSM, and some others.  I bring the water to a hot temperature then add the herbs, I then bring them all to a boil for 15-30 minutes.  Then I simmer with the top on for 30-45 minutes.  Then I strain to have only liquid.  I then balance out the rest with water to make a lukewarm, body temperature water.

After every enema flush I have some lingering stuff that needs to come out.  At this time I do some Singado, Nicotiana tea to the nasal, and after this I do some Rape' snuff.  This will get the rest out.  At this point I couldn't shit if I had to, nothing else seems to be left in the intestines, clean clean clean.

I then wait at least 3 hours before doing Kambo in order to have full strength.  Although this whole process feels amazing it's best to not chance it.

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Kambo & Rapé / Nu-Nu Snuff / Singado internasal tea / Re: Singado
« on: December 04, 2012, 08:44:31 AM »
Tis the original Andes formula bro.  They use alcohol too, how much I don't know for sure.  I use about 15% alchohol to 85% water, as well I add in Himalayan salt and MSM sulfur chrystsls. 

I only take in about 1ml per nostril, as well I let none fall our.  I do a precise dose/formula to get the exact results of clarity and overall happiness.  I use a Neti Pot syringe so it shoots straight and direct.  Any more than 1ml and it will start spilling out for me. 

It is excellent for when Iboga micro dosing stacks up too much, when one starts to feel a bit "fuzzy" it cleans the passage way fresh.

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Kambo & Rapé / Nu-Nu Snuff / Singado internasal tea / Re: Singado
« on: December 04, 2012, 12:12:32 AM »
This is truly brilliant medicine.  I started working with it in tea form.  Then lately I got the balls to put grain alcohol in there, just enough to cover to Nicotiana leaves (I work with 3 strains currently) then I add very hot water and let it sit over night.  I shake up periodically.  Then I strain the portion I want for the day and put the rest in the fridge (just in case to preserve proper). 

The alcohol makes it a whole new ball game, it really hits home, very intense pain though.  I'm sort of hooked on the rush of ordeals (if you couldn't tell) so it kind of goes along with my current attitude.

Yesterday I did the Singado before Kambo and got amazing results.  I felt so clear going into the Kambo.  Also got me into a healer atmosphere for the 2 friends I treated before I was treated.  I'm super in love with Singado, hence it deserved a thread all it's own.

Much elaboration to come.  Rape' is very nice after Singado too.  The Singado makes a clearance in all passageways and then the Rape' has clear access to the brain.  BAM!  Nasal Fuel for the strong in heart. 

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Kambo Icaros / Gut wrenching song
« on: December 03, 2012, 11:59:05 PM »
Yesterday I did Kambo to the meridians all around the ear on the side of the neck/head.  So not on the ear but on the head/neck if that makes sense.  For the triple energizer.

Lasted 2 hours, this is a very sensitive spot.

What I learned this time:
Kambo's teaching this time was that Kambo is mainly (for me at least) a vehicle for song.  I sang the entire 2 hours in wild frequencies.  As I sang I went with the Kambo surgeon peering deeper and deeper into my guts.  The deeper and higher pitched I would sing the better it would "extract" or "expel" my purges. 

The experience was very visionary, the fractals I was seeing were off the charts.  Doing Kambo anywhere close to the brain is both very potent and very visionary.  Personally it's the only meridian area I want to work with lately, just wish there were more over there.  It seems the Triple Energizer is a dear one to me and I'll probably fill up every last dot over and over again until I've had enough. 

San Jiao 17-San Jiao 21 for those with an interest in digging deep down.

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From: "My Kambo Initiation"
http://kambo.me/smf/index.php?topic=160.msg803;topicseen#msg803

This seems like Gio's evolved form of the Katukina initiation.  I do mine differently in order to work on different meridians but I really like the sound of this one and might have to give it a go some day (soon).

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Day 3
We tried 5 points (still on te kidney meridian on the right leg) and came up with what we called the kambo dance. Kambo was applied to all 5 points then as soon as I started purging, the kambo was removed. Once I stopped purging, I would fill up with water again and the kambo was reapplied to the original 5 points. I purged again, drank and had the kambo applied to the same 5 points for a third time. All this occurred in well under 2 hours from start to finish. No blood observed today, mostly green then white bile. Recovery was fast and I felt great the rest of the day. I was wide awake at bedtime and didn't sleep much but was not tired the next day.

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Journals / Ordeals / Re: My Kambo Initiation
« on: December 03, 2012, 11:44:42 PM »
Such an amazing report!  I learned so much reading this as I never knew how Gio did it exactly.  Well appreciated!

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Peaceful Warrior,
Is there a way you can start a thread about NDMA antagonists in this board section?  With the importance associated with Iboga?  It seems rather important and rather than me go through your threads and put bits and pieces in I thought it might be more efficient for a "one stop shop". 

Thanks

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It's like every post you make needs a thread!  What's an administrator to do with a Wizard of such order?  I have much work to do, in making up new threads for so much info hidden in these gems. 

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wait.......... are their native groups that micro dose iboga daily?... if so i have some insights to share about what they are causing to happen by doing this.

if you dose iboga for many days in a row and then stop 1-2 days before a higher dose or flood, you will get strong Noribogaine effects, because ibogaine inhibits CYP2D6 when the enzyme breaks it down, if you do this the same time everyday, then the body eventually starts to retaliate by overproducing the enzyme to compensate, so the first few experiences are mainly ibogaine and the later experiences should all be highly noribogaine.

"No one else has done this I suppose?"

untouched soil friend, tread lightly (:


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"Why would NMDA antagonists potentiate iboga? Isn't iboga an NMDA antagonist? These things won't compete and cancel each other?
Which sort of things would you use? Magnesium, Zinc, German chamomile? How does this work?"

NMDA antagonists synergise especially if the strongest or best one is taken separately 30 minutes after the others are all taken at once.

don't take german chamomile it inhibits CYP2D6 causing more ibogaine to be made and less noribogaine

prolactin inhibitors:   (will also enhance strength, will improve ability to assimilate experiences) taken chronically and also in high dose 45-30 minutes beforehand

vitamin B6
vitamin E
zinc

tumbs or peppermint EO will make ibogaine substantially stronger if added with chronic use should be extremely powerful, enhances absorption and reduces tolerance.

NMDA antagonist:        30 minutes beforehand

magnesium
zinc
parsley
garlic (fresh, chewed and swallowed)


extra vitamin c will also help

and possibly a mouth full of dxm 10 minutes after the others, followed 15 minutes later by ibogaine.

this would be extremely powerful to even micro dose ibogaine with all of these admixtures taken at the specified times.


"So this would make it stronger, granting the ability to use less plant alkaloid? "
yes, yes

"And continuing this everyday at the same time would keep the effects more pronounced, until you stopped, at which point the Noribogaine would continue to carry on doing its thing more subtly for the rest of the duration of the 4-6 months of its stay in the body"

it would likely make it dramatically more potent at very small micro doses.

NMDA antagonists up-regulate NMDA receptor in the long run, causing improved intelligence.

"How can this be done?"

tell them they get infinite wishes granted if they do it. (this is true)
some will still be unwilling to try oils or other things that balance chakras.

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#2

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personally the only thing i can think of that is similar to that is from dosing yin on left and yang on right half of body i can feel dopaminergics or serotonergics very distinctly when taken now.

yin = serotonin

yang = dopamine


also if you take these you will get more Noribogaine effects and less ibogaine effects:

CYP2D6 INDUCERS

Valerian root
Valerian root EO: 2-5 drops

i am still looking up the effects of ibogaine alone without noribogaine will post when found.


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"So are you saying rather than doing the "Aldehyde dehydrogenase inhibition + piperidine or dimethylamine supplementation" cycling for Iboga instead one would utilize the CYP2D6 INHIBITORS?"

i am saying combining for iboga to get Noribogaine to cycle:

piperidine (black pepper tea or L-lysine)
ALDH inhibitors (grocery store natural almond and star anise extracts) (or just tea made from whole star anises)

and then an CYP2D6 INDUCER like valerian, it could take anywhere from 30 minutes to over an hour after taking valerian for its induction to kick in.

so the timing would be for noribogaine:

pepper tea without solids (or l-lysine) and valerian at the same time

45 minutes later

20-40 drops each of natural star anise extract and almond extract from grocery store, sewing needle pokes small enough holes for drops in the foil seal, if put in gel caps with olive oil and taken followed right after by half peanut butter sandwich it is infinitely more enjoyable. or if your lazy you could eat 20 drops of each and apply 10+ drops to the skin above the liver and or along the meridians connected with the stomach and intestines and such, taking a caffeine tablet with these extracts at the same time will boost the ALDH inhibition very strongly.

15 minutes later

take ibogaine (possibly best if taken in gel caps, mixed with olive oil might help as well, and with very small bite of peanut butter sandwich)

if one cannot get valerian, they could take any of the short lasting INHIBITORS listed, the day before taking piperidine and ALDH inhibitors, and the next day after taking the short lasting inhibitors they will have long worn off with a high probability of the body slightly inducing the enzyme upon recovery from the inhibitor, you could do this by combining inhibitors under "weak" or "moderate" in extremely small doses the day before trying to cycle Noribogaine.

ibogaine without noribogaine:

if you wanted to cycle ibogaine alone without noribogaine effects (or very little noribogaine) you would do the same thing but make sure not to take valerian and instead ON the day of the cycling you would take strong CYP2D6 inhibitors at the same time as the ALDH inhibitors, in both set-ups you take the piperidine or dimethylamine 45 minutes before the ALDH inhibitors.

"Many seek the Noribogaine effects as this is filled with positive bliss.  If you can hone this one out...BOOM BUHM!  "

do you mean what needs to be done to get only Noribogaine? simple, dose valerian an hour to an hour and a half before iboga, if you cannot get your hands on valerian, then the day beforehand dose a combination of short lasting weak-moderate strength inhibitors from the list, then the next day when you take the iboga, you take it EXACTLY 15 minutes after the time you took the inhibitors the day prior.

your bodies enzyme runs on a tight schedule and if you inhibit or induce something they get written down in the schedule and your body expects to be repeating that act at the same time everyday this becomes more and more strong the more days on the EXACT same timing you take an inhibitor or inducer.

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From this thread:
http://kambo.me/smf/index.php?topic=136.0

Peaceful Warrior wrote this thread and answered some of our questions.  Many potentials here.  I will break this up as best as I can.  All credit to Peaceful Warrior. 

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now both ibogaine (12-Methoxyibogamine) and Noribogaine (12-Hydroxyibogamine) both seem to be able to be cycle because they are amines


i am currently looking up the receptors ibogaine alone hits, wile wiki lists the following for Noribogaine:

"Noribogaine is most potent as a serotonin reuptake inhibitor and acts as a moderate κ- and weak µ-opioid receptor full agonist"

the serotonin reuptake inhibitor part means temporarily during its effects the serotonin system is somewhat suppressed but upon the effect wearing off their is a permanent increase in the reuptake of serotonin, that is only reversed with continued over-activation of that system most usually by drugs of abuse.

one of the iboga effects are hallucinations from 5HT2A agonism, this is the primary receptor most psychedelics effect, downstream (downstream means activating this causes the activation of) this agonizes dopamine 2 receptor (D2), some compounds don't start with 5HT2A at all and instead directly effect D2 like salvia and cannabis, the primary effects of cannabis are D2 agonism, hard drugs like meth and cocaine the dream states these can cause are also caused by D2 agonism. lsd has a D2 agonism component.

now iboga is good in chronic micro doses (multiple reasons this is just one) because its kappa agonism increases the amount of D2 receptors in the brain, so that its 5HT2A agonism has more D2 receptors to flow into downstream.

the kappa opiod agonist part means you will get dynorphin, and your D2 receptors will be upregualted meaning increase the amount of receptors on the cell (addiction downregulates, anti-addictives upregulate)

dynorphin is the primary feeling of dread or loathing or dysphoria produced by drug withdrawal, intense exercise also produces dynorphin release. dynorphin itself agonizes kappa receptors. agonizing kappa receptors also releases dynorphin.

regardless of the means of activation agonizing kappa receptor reverses addiction in many key areas, it does not fix it, it pushes the bar in the right direction, in the same way abstaining from drugs for long periods would, so its kind of like speeding up time, agonizing this receptor as far as drug withdrawal is concerned because you can concentrate strong withdrawal of the drug into a short period of time and be done with it instead of dragging the dread out for weeks and months.

its effects on µ-opioid receptor are weaker than for kappa this is good, this receptor will give it a little bit higher of a serotonin phase in the beginning, it also makes this compound very useful for pain treatment and addiction treatment, because the NMDA antagonism makes its µ-opioid agonism non-tolerance creating, and the kappa agonism reverses the tolerance the user already had before ingestion.


the more CYP2D6 enzyme present in the stomach the less ibogaine you will get and the more Noribogaine you will get below is a list of inhibitors for that enzyme witch will cause ibogaine to be active alone taking much longer for the enzyme to recover and turn ibogaine into Noribogaine.

i will post more when i find out what ibogaine does alone.

i realize all this sounds fairly complicated at first, but you have to understand i am no student in any university or college, the psychedelics lead me to interest in how ABSOLUTELY everything effects the way i feel and my health and i take it as a form of creative expression to find out these things(there is no right or wrong just learning), once you truly understand the connectivity of all the systems in the brain and body and have a good relationship with psychedelics you truly hold the keys to the the mysteries of nature, the physical design and structure of the physical body and its micro systems, reflects perfectly the structure of the spiritual bodies and realms and their structure. the design of the structure comes from the same source.


POTENT CYP2D6 INHIBITORS

Cannabidiol (from Cannabis)
Echinacea purpurea
Goldenseal
Pomegranate juice (Punica granatum): 1 cup
Pummelo
Saint John’s Wort (high dose)
Starfruit juice
White grapefruit juice: 2 cups
MODERATE CYP2D6 INHIBITORS

Black pepper: 5 grams (ingest the solids, it's an ineffective inhibitor as tea)
Calamus EO: 3 drops
Kava
Pi. cubeba
Quercetin
Zingiber aromaticum
WEAK CYP2D6 INHIBITORS

Alpha-asarone (found in Calamus EO)
Black cohosh
Capsaicin (found in cayenne pepper, habanero peppers, etc.)
Cayenne pepper
Common sage
Cryptotanshinone
Curcuma heyneana
Curcumin
German chamomile EO
Ginkgo biloba
Habanero pepper
Milk Thistle
Safrole
Tanshinone I
Turmeric

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Kambo on Acupuncture Points / Re: Face Meridians
« on: December 01, 2012, 01:59:48 PM »
FYI:

When I have time (as promised) I will be re posting many of your posts here to make them more available to newcomers/members. 

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