I've really come to the realization the last 5 times I have done full Kambo sessions that through inward burping one is able to dive the Kambo deeper into the body and overall being.  I can feel it moving as it does this and it always makes it successful for deep purging.  One can almost (my theory noted) control how far they wish to go with the experience if they take enough to begin the purging process then they can delve much deeper in purging through inward burping.  Like taking 3-5 inward burps at a time.  Note that reverse shitting will also work quite successfully in getting much more out through enemas so it is a related technique.  Reverse shitting is more difficult. 

Yesterday I took it so far that I purged up huge amounts (like ayahuasca purges) of black crude oil.  One should be careful as it seems the number of inward purpings will quantify the amount of purging and outward purping.  While for some this is part of the goal I can't say that everyone wants to take it so far. 

Through this process I'm able to go much farther on less amount of dots.  Yesterday I did 5 auriculotherapy Kambo dots (which are typically less intense than regular meridian or traditional body Kambo) and 6 dots on meridians around the outer ear and I was able to gain access to the black bile Kambo.  In the past it took 13 dots on meridian points close to the heart to gain access to black bile Kambo.  So I'm thinking that inward purping is a great technique if you want to go really far. 

I also did an Ayahuasca enema to cleanse and a micro Aya dose in the morning which made for amazing visionary scan.  I know there are many entheogens and new ones coming out but these experiences make me feel I'm quite comfortable keeping a focus on the major medicines (IMO) Ruma(Tobacco) Kambo, Iboga and Ayahuasca.  With so much room for infinity with these 3 alone I often have troubles knowing how to integrate the rest. 

My body totally feels like I did an Iboga reset yesterday.  The Kambo can go so deep in combination with an Aya lead up.  And then once I recover (my body is frail today/the day after) I will consult the mother to learn all that Kambo taught.  Then 2 days after I will microdose with Iboga for 3 days to completely ground this plant based therapy.  Reporting back later for my own chronicle reference if for nothing else. 

Regards,
KP

This topic has been moved to Kambo and Sananga aka Becchete --- Visionary Eye Drops .

http://kambo.me/smf/index.php?topic=206.0

I did a lot of thinking over the course of the month before I posted this.  I understand this thread is going to upset some people, but my voice of reason is to strong not to make this a rule of the forum. 

No more talk of synthetic drugs on the forum.  So that goes for Acid and 5meoDMT.  That goes for any other non plant based sacraments.  I'll delete them if they appear.  I recognize they have their place on other forums.

The reason why I feel a need to do this...
Kambo is presently legal.  I don't want it associated with anything that could be viewed as a synthetic drug both with the Feds nor with the spirits. 

Overall the real reason is I think nature has all the answers, and Kambo is the ultimate testament to this. 

Thanks for the understanding
And
I understand if you don't understand or/and have a disagreement

Re:Sananga

He got them from me which is why I asked how he is using them. 

Thanks, very helpful.

I would have posted this on the eboka.info forum but the subject at hand is too controversial and risky.  What I am going to try and pose in words is the translation from my experiences as well as what I intuit that the Bwiti(group in Gabon that uses Iboga as a sacrament) already know but don't tell us. 

For me this is related to other entheogens ie Kambo and Ayahuasca (I don't know other entheogens very well) - (Hopefully Peaceful Warrior can comment on others and his experience with kissing death)

So I have had 4 floods and treated many others with Iboga.  I have also had about 40 Kambo experiences and I really have no idea of how many Ayahuasca journeys.  The experiences that had a long lasting effect that truly benefited me/AND ESPECIALLY OTHERS (treating them with Iboga/Kambo/Ayahuasca) were the ones where for a great deal of the journey I or the other felt like they were dying.  To achieve this state one must not take a little dose or what is "required".  To meet the plant medicines on this level one must be willing to go well and beyond the norm.

Case in point Iboga:
You will see all over the internet standard doses for Ibogaine.  First off I'm not going to talk about Ibogaine (because I don't work with 1 isolated alkaloid from the plant anyways) as well I feel it dangerous to pack so much dose into one take.

So I am talking about the whole composition of Iboga.  Some important things to note when taking large doses of Iboga TA, Iboga PTA, and Iboga RB --- Space out the dosage.  Always space out at least 10 minutes apart.  Never take too much at any one time as it could overtax the heart.

AGAIN CAUTION: NOT FOR THE MASSES: FOR SERIOUS HEALERS ONLY

The goal is to keep taking the Iboga until you can't take any more~This is the secret of Bwiti administration.  To go to the furthest reaches until one comes face to face with death.  Terrifying, intense warrior impressions.

This IMO/IME is the only way to truly be reborn by Iboga and other entheogens.  A lesser dose will certainly help.  But let's remember with medicines like Iboga when we speak of initiations, when you come out on the other side you should be completely reborn.

NOT ENOUGH - SYMPTOMS:
If you didn't purge=you need more
If you can talk/move=you need more
If your comfortable in anyway shape or form=you need more
If you don't have visions 100% of the time for 24 hours (From Iboga)=you didn't have enough
If can eat within 24 hours=you didn't have enough
If you can fully function within 48 hours=you didn't have enough

Again this is related with Kambo in having a dose where for a shorter amount of time you feel like you are going to die.  This from my experience is when the most benefits are reaped.

CAUTION: WARNING: ONLY FOR SERIOUS HEALERS-in terms of large doses.  Only those serious about healing others should be put in the capacity to administer Bwiti like doses.  For others a general dose can be found anywhere on the internet.  For the safety of these medicines I ask that this thread and it's contents be kept here.  High doses of Iboga can and will kill people if not administered by a well devoted and experienced Ibogaist. 

This topic has been moved to Journals/Ordeals.

http://kambo.me/smf/index.php?topic=187.0

Another very important thread worthy of further specific discussion.  It is tied to this thread and beginning discussion...

http://kambo.me/smf/index.php?topic=181.msg882#new
"vitamin B6
vitamin E
zinc"

these are prolactin inhibitors they give you more electromagnet energy, its important to take at least these 3 chronically because they will DRAMATICALLY reduce how taxing on your entire system it is every time you have an orgasm, this is very important, for many reasons one large one is that the sex system is heavily interlaced with the addiction regulation system.

you want to take MUCH more than the daily recommended dose for all 3 of these.

"tumbs or ideally peppermint EO"

the menthol in tumbs and peppermint EO is a kappa agonist.

kappa agonists REVERSE tolerance not prevent REVERSE, agonizing kappa upregulates the amount of D2 receptors on cells and upregulates Mu opiate and i think delta receptors as well, this means it increases the amount of receptors on the cells surface, meaning less drug goes farther.

if you have less D2 receptors life seems flat and non-interesting everything loses its novelty, when you have properly functioning D2 levels and prolactin suppressed you can basically fill the physical universe with pages of a book describing a single grain of sand.

the way tolerance works is by downregulating witch means it decreases the number of receptors on the cells surface making less drug get utilized, making you need to take more.

"NMDA antagonist:     

magnesium
zinc
parsley
garlic (fresh, chewed and swallowed)"

NMDA basically constantly watches the bodies cells for changes and it records all changes in a type of memory.

if you antagonize NMDA it basically makes the cells forget the memory of the drug experiences and prevents them from downregulating a bit, it also prevents the cells from forming strong memory based connections with certain substances (habit)

it impairs YOUR ADDICTION SYSTEMS memory so the cells cannot make strong connections. the stronger the connection is the stronger the dependance is.

this is all just my theory really.

With the nuances (at least to me) about the ability to greatly quantify experiences with the methods of Oilahuasca and Aldehyde dehydrogenase inhibition + piperidine or dimethylamine supplementation...

http://kambo.me/smf/index.php?topic=136.0

From my own experience the quality of a CO2 Essential Oil is supreme.  I was wondering if others have this experience or what thoughts their are on this.  I was thinking to delve into this realm I would like to have the best quality sacramental EO. 

A brief summary of the Supercritical CO2 Extraction:

http://www.edenbotanicals.com/co2-extracts-supercritical-extraction-essential-oils.html

CO2 extracts, also known as supercritical CO2 extracts or supercritical fluid CO2 extracts, are extremely pure plant extracts produced from a relatively new and highly efficient extraction process. CO2 extraction produces superior herbal extracts that find wide use in the flavoring and herbal medicine industries. CO2 extracts are oils similar to distilled essential oils that can be used in aromatherapy and natural perfumery to great benifit. Essential oils have traditionally been derived using either steam or hydro distillation, or extracted using chemical solvents such as hexane, heptane or ethanol. The supercritical CO2 extract and its process have many benefits over the traditional distillation processes, which should be taken into consideration when choosing a natural aromatic oil for use in body care products, aromatherapeutic blend, natural perfume or similar product. Eden Botanicals was one of the original essential oils companies in the USA to embrace the concept of using CO2 extracts like essential oils in the aromatherapy and natural perfumery field. Read below to find out more about this interesting process or please click here to view a list of the 30 or so CO2 extracts that we sell, including certified organic CO2 extracts.

The CO2 extraction process consists of pumping pressurized carbon dioxide into a chamber filled with plant matter. When carbon dioxide is subjected to pressure it becomes "supercritical" and has liquid properties while remaining in a gaseous state. Because of the liquid properties of the gas, the CO2 functions as a solvent, pulling the oils and other substances such as pigment and resin from the plant matter. Thus, the difference between CO2, or supercritical, extraction and traditional distillation is that CO2 is used as a solvent instead of heated water or steam. The temperature involved in the supercritical extraction process is around 95 to 100 degrees F as opposed to 140 to 212 degrees F in steam distillation.

Steam distillation is typically considered the best way to obtain essential oils for use in aromatherapy - simply because CO 2 extracts were not available when aromatherapy was becoming popular and being written about. However, the distillation method produces varying oil qualities dependent upon the temperature, pressure and time used for distillation. The CO2 extraction process, or supercritical extraction process, will in some cases produce a superior oil in that it has not been altered by high heat (as steam distillation does). Another important difference between CO2 extracts and distilled essential oils is that CO2 extracts typically contain more constituents found in the plant than just the essential oil portion. In this way they more closely resemble the original plants chemical make up, and could be considered to contain a fuller spectrum of constituents from the plant than essential oils do.

An important point regarding steam distillation of essential oils is that the temperature involved in the process changes the molecular composition of the plant matter. The use of heat in the distillation process changes the molecular composition of the essential oil. (Remember from chemistry class - heat is a great potentiator of chemical reactions). An excellent case in point is that of German chamomile (Matricaria recutita). In the distillation of German chamomile, the matricin (the chemical in the plant that functions as an excellent anti-inflammatory) changes to chamazulene with the addition of high temperatures during steam distillation. Thus, after the distillation process of German Chamomile, the matricin has been lost and chamazulene is found. The blue color of German chamomile oil is evidence of this chemical change as chamazulene is a dark blue color. However, when German Chamomile flowers are extracted using CO2 technology, the resulting extract is green. The chemical reaction due to the addition of heat did not occur and the extract is more similar in composition to the original flowers than the distilled essential oils is.

There are a few positive aspects of the supercritical CO2 extraction process and the resultant supercritical CO2 extract over some aromatic extracts such as absolutes. The CO2 supercritical extraction process eliminates the need for potentially harmful solvents like hexane that is often used in the manufacture of absolute oils, avoiding unnecessary environmental pollution and potential human bodily harm. Another positive aspect to the CO2 distillation process is the aroma of the extract. A CO2 supercritical extract often will exhibit a more genuine aroma of the actual herb, spice or plant than a distilled essential oil. The aroma of the CO2 extracts of ginger, cardamom and other spices, for instance, are more alive, active, spirited than the aroma of the same plants that have been steam distilled.

At Eden Botanicals, we recognize and respect the many considerations involved in the selection of essential oils and extracts. While we consider some of the CO2 extracts to be superior to steamed distilled essential oils, we do not believe this is always the case. For instance we love the spice oils derived using CO2 technology, and believe that they are in general superior to most steam distilled spice oils. This is not necessarily the case with all essential oils however. If you compare patchouli essential oils derived from CO2 and steam distillation, you will find quite different oils, with very different aroma profiles. In these cases, some people will prefer the more earthy, woody patchouli derived from steam distillation to the fresher, greener aroma of the patchouli CO2 extract. For patchouli it comes down to personal preference, and we do not feel one is better than the other. In order to offer you the greatest variety and the best quality of essential oils, we carry many of the CO2 supercritical extracts in addition to the traditional essential oils. In some cases, we only offer the CO2 extract due to its superior quality.