Hip, yes that's exaclty what I'm saying. I have treated several people with CFS. They way that the treatments are given is very important. I start low to guage the persons tolerance. You can see how weak or strong a person is by how long it takes them to recover after Kambo.  The key is to build up slowly but to treat frequently. I have learnt this through experience. The first people that I treated were wiped out for days afterwards. I noticed that with subsequent treatments this period of time got shorter. So first few treatments, it was maybe four/five days before the person started to feel some benefit and the benefits wore off within another four or five days. With subsequent treatments this recovery period reduced and the benefit period increased. In most cases the person felt worse after the treatment than before. This puzzled me and din't fit what I know about how Kambo works until it occured to me that maybe the Kambo was working so hard in their body that it was wearing them out. So, more recently, I started with 6 tiny dots and encourage them to purge as much as possible, masses of water, rape', rattle work and even fingers down the throat if need be. They didn't feel so great after but they felt ok the next day. I started to slowly increase the dose at each treatment and it solved the problem. The client grew stronger as the dose was increased. As she grew stronger, she was able to cope with a higher dose.  And as she received the higher doses, she was feeling better and better and the good effects started to increase.  Once you reach this stage, you should space the treatments out a little more. Moving them further and further apart, whilst increasing the dose by one point each time and if possible, moving the points closer to the heart.  I have used this technique a couple of times now - I think its unique in the kambo world and it works. You can also improve the efficacy by thoughtful use of the meridians but you must ensure that you get this right or you could be setting up a kind of self-defeating energy circuit. Every person will have some key issues in CFS, whether it be pain, depression, fatigue or some other issue. Pick what's most prevalent and work with that as far as meridians are concerned. Eventually you will be taking kambo once every 2 - 3 months which is easily sustainable and you can reuse the points. Because of my background, I think its also important to address the emotional aspects of CFS - life with it and life without it - especially for a long termer. I tend to do this alongside of kambo treatments and I also use other plant based remedies and supplements too.

It's true that you absorb less kambo with smaller burns but then you do more of them. Its a choice, less bigger ones or more smaller ones. I tend to use small on sensitive areas and for 'pretty' patterns. You can also mix the size of the burns. One central larger burn and a circle of smaller burns. Another way to get more kambo into small burns is to do one treatment, remove the kambo after the purge and replace it to bring on another deeper purge. I don't recommend this until you are strong with kambo though. The burns on the guy's back in your link are what I would consider large, the ones on his arm are normal. If I could work out how to upload pictures on here I'd show you. As you get healthier, the burns heal faster and I make plasters from plant extracts to heal them even faster. When they are fully healed and faded to white, you can reuse them, no problem.  The other thing that I see, especially with self administered burns but also with some practitioners is deep burns. This is not necessary, you only need to scrape off the top layer of skin - there should be no blood or redness, just a small white patch. The burn is so 'on the surface' that it will heal really well.  This just takes practice. Its a light touch and a downward flick of the wrist rather than a pressing in action.

Have a look at this video - this is nice burn work and notice the wrist action.....

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkCzGgBFjKw&list=PL4BA05652D302C0B2


As for the Indian disease, I think that one of the functions of the lymphatic system is to beat anything nasty to death as soon as it tries to enter the body so that may be part of why it needs to go in that way. When the skin is burnt, all the bodys' defences rush to that site and attempy to anihilate anything dodgy. There are many stories about how they worked out how to administer it but mostly they say that it came from the spirit of intelligent plants in the forest - can't argue with that.

Will PM you too

This is the guy who died of a cardiac arrest in 2008. Its a well known story in Brazil. His autopsy showed that he had a previous history of heart problems and should not have been given Kambo either at all or at the dose that was administered. When there is a pre-existing heart condition, you need to start very low and build up the dosage which can actually sterngthen the heart. If the person has had a bypass or similar surgery then Kambo is a complete no no..

Of course kambo can kill if its used improperly but so can many pharmaceuticals. Keep it safe people!

'Antes que continue, um detalhe importante: no caso da morte supostamente causada pelo kambô em Pindamonhagaba-SP o laudo do IML não detectou a presença dos peptídeos da rã,  o que significa que para a ciência médica, a morte foi causada por problema cardíaco anterior à aplicação.'

I have burns on my legs, back, arms, feet and ears so they're obvious now. I just say that they're kambo, a medicine from the Amazon - and this is how its applied - and that's it!  So many people have tattoos, piercings and body mods these days that I just see it on a par with these - except mine have helped me to heal. I also point out that lots of mainstream medications are made from snake venom etc so I'm just cutting out the middle man.

I do spirals, infinity symbol, crosses, stars, muraquita - which is an amazonian frog symbol and lots of others

Viva kambo!

Hi Jox

Thanks for your response. Its fine because you are totally entitled to your view and to express it any way you wish. Thats a given.

I can't comment on or answer for how anyone else works, only myself.  Whilst Kambo is clearly not administered in a clinical environment, I hope that my training and experience enables me to understand what is an abnormal reaction and how to deal with that calmly. 

My point was simply

1.That this woman has an extremely complex and highly individual set of health issues going on here and that in my view, because of that alone, she should exercise a little caution. Of course she has free will and can do as she chooses and you are free to disagree with me.

2. That there is always a bigger picture to consider and that its important for those of us that believe in this medicine to do the best we can to protect it and preserve its integrity.

Sounds like you've had a rough time with MDs and APs. I'm sad to hear that. I trust there are some good people out there doing their best to help others, being accessible and setting reasonable rates but agreed, there are also some rotten ones. I can't say much more about that.

All good wishes
Galega

Ahh, getting my ginsengs mixed up. 

Best to spread the maca powder out on a baking tray and bake it in the oven on a low heat for a while. Then you can make tea from it or put it in a smoothie/juice.

Kambo,

Yes, I'm very happy for you to share on other forums but maybe just give the full details of the US ceremonies as the others are pretty near full or just wait listing. Perhaps just mention the cities and use the kamboamerica email address for everything. Thankyou! You may have to add in the fact that they are Kambo ceremonies. Silly, I should have said that specifically.

Jox,

Kambo circle are where people come and take Kambo in a safe and sacred space. They include a short discussion, intention sharing, breathwork, rape' ceremony, sensitivity/allergy testing, treatment in a tribal/caboclo/contempory style, aftercare (i.e. natural bandages, herbal infusions) live medicine music, icaros, percussion etc

Psilo,

 

Maca - start with a low dose around 600mgs per day - that should be one capsule.  Maca stimulates and regulates the production of a normal level of hormones - that includes testosterone in women too.  I think that the side effects you mention must come from serious overdosing so start slowly and build up over time. There are signs with Maca to know if you're taking too much. Breast tenderness, similar to that which some women experience Pre Mestrually is the best one. Stick with one capsule a day for the first month and then increase by one capsule a month until you're on three per day. Then ou can increase/decrease until you find the right level - everyone is different.

I'm not suggesting that you should do your own Kambo treatments, Giovanni is 100% right on that but I was unsure if you had access to a decent practitioner on a regular basis. Once a month will be good for you anyway.

You could also try enteric coated oregano oil capsules for the Candida.

I totally agree with Jox. Every person that I have treated with CFS (or any compromised immune system) has felt sh*t the day after and improved over the next 5 days. I have found that as they progress with kambo, this drops from 5 to 4 to 3 etc until eventually it starts to kick in. Keep going!

Great, got it. I'll put you on the list and you'll get an invite with all info very soon. Feel free to pass it on to your friends. Spaces are limted so its first come, first served etc

Hoping to do one aya in each location - still sourcing the right venue in NY. Its going to be strictly invitation only because of the legal issues but until the venue is confirmed I don't know what kind of numbers we will have.  Should know soon.