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Journals / Ordeals / Re: Second Kambo experience
« on: August 18, 2012, 06:34:11 AM »
The kambo seems to sting my burns a lot too and turns them red. The burns turn white again after washing the kambo off. Do you mean you burned each spot multiple times each time you do kambo or that you reuse the burn spots each time you do it? I noticed in the videos that they just touch the skin for less than a second with the hot vine/wood. What I've been doing it holding the hot wood there for about 2 seconds, usually until I can't take the pain anymore. I do this to ensure that the burn is sufficient but I'm probably overdoing it too. Maybe the kambo doesn't reach the receptors in the same way like this when too many layers of skin have been removed.

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Journals / Ordeals / My 2nd kambo experience - Why didn't my face swell?
« on: August 17, 2012, 05:17:33 PM »
I applied 5 normal sized dots to my right arm. Right after applying, I realised I forgot to drink water so I went over to the sink and downed around half a liter but I felt sick so I made my way back to sit down and nearly fainted on the way. Like my first experience, my body temperature sky rocketed and I started pouring sweat.  I felt pretty ill so I went to the toilet to get sick and once again, purged all the contents of my stomach. After that I spent around 15 minutes lying down because I had no energy and shivering because I felt freezing. I didn't have the energy to get up and find something to wrap around me. Again, my eyes were completely blood shot and they only went back to normal when I started feeling better. My face didn't swell though. Is this a sign that I underdosed? I probably should have wet the blobs of kambo from time to time but I felt pretty ill and didn't want to intensify it. When all of you do kambo, does your face swell up every time? If not, is lack of swelling an indication that you underdosed? My experiences so far haven't been that intense. Only for a minute or so (at the start of the experience) did I feel like I may die, the rest of the time I struggled but I knew it would pass. Each time, after purging I felt WAY better.

As for results, so far my drowsiness is gone but I'll have to give that more time before making any conclusions because that comes and goes. That aggitated feeling that I get when I quit benzos is gone too but I'll have to give that a few days because that comes and goes too. I feel great now, its funny that around 20 minutes ago I was curled up in the fetal position groaning lol.

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General Discussion / Re: What is too much?
« on: August 17, 2012, 03:31:42 PM »
Is it possible to overdose and die by applying too many dots? If not, then I'm going to do an overkill application to ensure that I get the maximum effects. Earlier today, I scraped the kambo off my arms when I felt the effects coming on rapidly because I thought I might die if I didn't but I regret doing that because my face didn't swell at all so I don't think I got the full effects.

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Diet before and after / Re: hydration is key for the full experience
« on: August 17, 2012, 02:24:00 PM »
I must have purged every milliliter of the 1.5L of water I drank, my body kept vomiting even after there was nothing left in my stomach. I'm glad I drank all that water because what came out was yellow. If that was bile then its a good thing I drank all that water to dilute it because that stuffs fairly corrosive.

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Complementary Modalities / Palo Santo
« on: August 17, 2012, 02:20:42 PM »
The kambo I ordered came with a piece of palo santo wood. If I'm not mistaken, its Spanish for holy wood. Is this wood traditionally burned during kambo ceremonies?

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Journals / Ordeals / Re: My first kambo purge
« on: August 17, 2012, 12:07:20 PM »
Its too early to tell whether it is curing the benzo PAWS or not because I took xanax last night but I get these waves of aggitation throughout the day, I had it this morning before doing the kambo but I don't feel it at all now. I'll give it a few days and if the aggitation/anxiety doesn't come back, then I'll be sure that the kambo cured the symptoms. I'm going to do it again tomorrow morning to maximize the effectiveness. This time I'll do it right. My face didn't swell, I assume thats because I wiped off the medicine so quickly. I got a fright because the effects came on so rapidly, I wasn't expecting that to happen at all but tomorrow I'll know thats all part of the process.

EDIT: Something I forgot to mention was when I applied the kambo the second time, the skin on both of my arms turned orange. This happens to my hands sometimes in very cold whether but never like this, the orange covered my whole arms. This happened within seconds of applying the kambo. Also I should mention that when I had a bath, the stinging stopped and the burns turned white again.

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Journals / Ordeals / My first kambo purge
« on: August 17, 2012, 09:47:10 AM »
I did it at home because it was too impractical to do it outdoors for my first time. I made 3 intense burns (way too big and intense I think) on my left arm, the burns were nearly 1cm in diameter, and very intense. I scraped the skin off each burn and the skin underneath was bright white. I then I covered two of the burns with kambo. I was cautious about covering the 3rd one and instead waited to see if I felt something. Literally in under a minute I started to feel very light headed and dizzy. I also started sweating profusely so I got scared and removed the kambo from my arms. At that point I had to lie down because I was feeling really weak so I went to a cool room and lay in the bed and noticed I was covered in sweat. Then I knew I was about to puke so I went to the bathroom and purged violently. Something strange is that the vomit was yellow. I haven't eaten anything today and I drank 1.5L of water about 10 minutes before applying the kambo, I should have just vomited up water. After puking I felt WAY better but still drained of energy so I lay down for about 10 minutes and noticed that I could see mild psychedelic visuals. I'm not frog faced but when I looked in the mirror after purging my eyes were completely bloodshot. I don't know whether to regret taking the medicine off now or not. The whole thing only lasted about 15 minutes. I feel pretty good now but my plan is to do it 3 times in a row to reap maximum benefits and tonight, I won't chicken out and remove the medicine.

EDIT: I'm thinking of doing it again since these burns are still fresh and since I completely overdid it with these burns, I want to make use of them. I'm going to drink another 1.5L of water and give it another go.

That yellow stuff that I puked up must be bial. It only took around 5 minutes before I had to purge, is that normal? Is purging all that bial a sign that I will get some therapeutic benefits from this experience? I'm going to do it again tonight but go easier on the burns. The kambo stick I ordered came with two wooden sticks which I think are for burning, they are about 3 times smaller than the chopstick I am using. Can anyone tell me the exact diameter in millimeters that these burns should be? If I'm making bigger burns then more medicine will be getting absorbed through each spot. I want to get a full on experience but I don't want to overdo it and overdose. The two burns where I applied the kambo are blood red and are stinging but the  other one is barely noticeable.

EDIT2: I was braver this time, I applied the medicine on all 3 spots and left it there. I didn't get light headed or dizzy at all this time but I felt pretty bad and got aches and pains all over. I didn't feel any urgent need to vomit this time but I decided to try and induce purging myself and I noticed that it was just water that came out so I stopped. After about 5 minutes I got a sharp pain in my abdomen like I got the first time and shortly after that I felt a slight need to vomit so I did and when I started, I couldn't stop and more yellow stuff came out. My eyes went completely bloodshot again and I got pretty weak but it was nowhere near as intense as the first time. Very strange since I applied 3 dots instead of 2 this time and held it there. Now my 3rd burn has turned blood red so it is definitely the medicine that does this.

I got hit with this wave of dejavu right before deciding to give the kambo another try and when I started feeling better and decided to give this update, it was 3:33. I timed it this time and it lasted around 30 minutes, not 15. I'm going to do the meridian method next time, maybe auricular. I'll either do it tonight or else I'll do my next 2 experiences tomorrow.

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I want to try putting spots on the meridians that lightswitchedon described:

but I'll have trouble remembering all that when the time comes. Something to help me remember that I'm considering is poking myself with a needle in each of these spots. I could pierce the flesh just enough that I will be able to feel the tiny wounds when the time comes. I don't think I'd need to pierce the cartilage, just the flesh.

How do you all perform auricular spotting on yourself? Do you just memorise the locations before attempting it or have you come up with a method of marking it. I suppose I could just print out that picture and take it with me to wherever I'll be doing the kambo. I believe that kambo will completely rid me of any benzo withdrawal symptoms that I have but I want to make it as effective as possible because its not just PAWS I need to cure, its drowsiness (which is what led me to self medicate in the first place).

Also I'd imagine you'd need to make much smaller burns because there is only so much room in these various locations of the ear to make the burns.

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Application / Re: How to apply via the burning method
« on: August 16, 2012, 10:48:51 AM »
Kambogahuasca Panacea: You described how to scrape the medicine from the stick so that it aggregates into little balls. Can you prepare these balls before hand and store them until your ready to apply them or is it something you have to do on the spot. I see no reason why you can't let the kambo dry out and store it but I just want to be sure. The kambo I ordered arrived and I feel ready so I'm going to do it in the next few days so I want to make sure I have everything covered. I got some bamboo chopsticks and did a couple of test burns and it works perfectly. Far less painful than I expected. Nothing like getting burned by hot metal.

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Journals / Ordeals / Re: Auricular Kambo Experience
« on: August 16, 2012, 10:34:28 AM »
Had you taken the clonazepam the day before doing the kambo? Clonazepam stays in your system for a long time (after daily use, it stays in ones system for over a week if I'm not mistaken) so I think we can conclude that kambo doesn't have any adverse interactions with benzos, or at least clonazepam.

EDIT: Thanks for the link, for my first time (or maybe my first 3 times as I've heard that 3 times in a short time period is most effective) I'm going to do it the traditional way on my arms but after that I'm going to apply it to auricular meridians. I took dexedrine for over 2 weeks to study for a couple of exams and had to use xanax to sleep afterwards so I think these benzo PAWS are going to be back with a vengeance. I'll find out if kambo works for benzo withdrawal symptoms soon enough. I think I'm going to leave it until 3 or 4 days after quitting the xanax to be on the safe side.

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Journals / Ordeals / Re: Undefeated Love --- Kambo Intensive
« on: August 16, 2012, 09:13:28 AM »
Is it your first time in South America? I bet that will be a completely life changing trip. You'll get to do ceremonies with people who have been using the medicine to heal people their whole lives and whos ancestors have been using it and passing on the information for hundreds or even thousands of years. Nothing compares to that. Have you decided to become a curandero yourself? I don't know if that word is reserved for indigenous South American shamans who specialize in healing or not but I like the word a whole lot better than just "healer" because to me a curandero uses entheogens to heal which requires them to have profound knowledge and experience of these substances in order to work with them. The curandero is in tune with the spirits of these substances, to me thats what sets them apart from others who have the ability to heal.

It seems like everything is falling into place for you too. All these small coincidences paving your path to Peru.

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Application / Re: How to apply via the burning method
« on: August 15, 2012, 09:58:02 PM »
Thanks caiano, I'll remember that. I wonder if there are other solvents that work better than water. For example, ethanol and isopropanol have very low toxicity so they're worth experimenting with. I know from experience that there are many compounds that easily dissolve in alcohols but don't easily dissolve in water and vice versa so maybe a mixture of alcohol and water (such as vodka or diluted rubbing alcohol) would be even more effective. Since this medicine comes from frogs, I think its worth experimenting with variables and try and find even more effective delivery methods. This will contribute to protecting the frogs (since more effective delivery methods means less of the medicine is needed to perform the healing). I know they aren't harmed in the process of obtaining the medicine from them but it probably takes them time to recuperate.

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Journals / Ordeals / Re: Undefeated Love --- Kambo Intensive
« on: August 14, 2012, 11:26:03 AM »
Just wait until kambo enlightens you about kambo...or has it already?  Did you do your thing this morning?  Everytime I do it I have to tell myself to go slow and take it easy and the ever-present omnipresent shaman takes care of the rest.

Not yet. Its ordered and will arrive any day now but I have it planned for next week. I think the spirit is speaking to me through synchronicity already. After seeing 33 everywhere for days, I was the 333rd person to watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=akFMIhCeQJ0
The last time I experienced it, a voice in my head told me I had to go to the jungle and purge my soul. At the time I thought ayahuasca, I didn't know about kambo back then. It'll be a long time before I go to South America but I hope to purge my spirit of panema to some extent sooner than that. This number seems to come with a weakening of my ego. Whenever these 33/333 numbers appear, it comes with a damaging of my ego. I suspect kambo will give my ego a metaphysical trashing. I used to avoid this in the past and desperately try to cling to the ego but now I will embrace it because I know that I need to be free of the confines of the ego to become truly altruistic.

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Application / Re: How to apply via the burning method
« on: August 14, 2012, 11:04:20 AM »
Thanks a lot. I'm not familiar with Japanese incense but I'm guessing I should carve the bamboo stick down to around 5 mm in diameter. Using a bamboo stick of a specific diameter should remove most of the variables I was concerned about. What I mean is that bamboo should burn at a specific temperature so if you heat it until the tip is glowing red, then press it into the skin and allow the skin to fully quench the heat, then the intensity of the burns should be more or less the same each time so then it all comes down to how much kambo is applied. By adding the same amount of water each time, one should be able to hold the amount of medicine per dot constant.

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Introductions / Re: unCURABLEme
« on: August 12, 2012, 10:49:26 PM »
My understanding (which is quite limited) of viruses is that they are basically just genetic code packaged in a protein trojan horse which trojan their way into host cells then hijack the host cells genetic machinery. They don't require toxins to operate, although toxins will weaken the host organisms immune system which will make for a more hospitable environment for the virus. They're like the DNA/RNA equivalent of computer viruses, they're just bits of code which is designed to be read and executed by their target. Thats the mainstream theory of it though, the reality of it may be very different. The mechanism by which iboga or kambo rids the body of a virus probably cannot be explained through that mainstream western paradigm. The Amazonian shamans can probably explain it through their paradigm.

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