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General Discussion / Re: Arranging Kambo ceremony in London
« on: August 30, 2013, 05:11:30 am »
I'd be really interested to find out if kambo helps.

In the meantime, you should definitely look at fasting which will help you.  Water fasting leads to a powerful anti-inflammatory response in the body due to a process called autophagy (self-cleansing).  I turned my mum onto it and it worked for her osteoarthritis.

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I checked it out and in fact poo is brown because of a combination of bile and bilirubin.  I didn't find anywhere that said it was yellow and turned brown by bacteria.

"Human fecal matter varies significantly in appearance, depending on diet and health. Normally it is semisolid, with a mucus coating. Its brown coloration comes from a combination of bile and bilirubin, which comes from dead red blood cells.

In newborn babies, fecal matter is initially yellow/green after the meconium. This coloration comes from the presence of bile alone. In time, as the body starts expelling bilirubin from dead red blood cells, it acquires its familiar brown appearance, unless the baby is breast feeding, in which case it remains soft, pale yellowish, and not completely malodorous until the baby begins to eat significant amounts of other food."  Wikipedia entry for feces

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Journals / Ordeals / Re: Finally took the plunge..
« on: August 29, 2013, 04:26:40 am »
It makes sense with any new plant or animal medicine, or any drug come to that, to familiarise yourself and be cautious.  This is the wise and safe thing to do, not just for yourself but the whole community.  Now you have a better idea of your dosage and the effects you can go for it.  In my experience, a few dots with only some purging has fairly subtle effects - though I've never done it on meridians which sounds more powerful.  For the promised 'superman' feeling, you have to endure pain and extreme discomfort.  The lower you go, the higher you'll fly.

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Black bile sounds like bleeding in the stomach or small intestine from a tear or an ulcer.  The act of prolonged and forceful vomiting would worsen any exciting tear or ulcer.

Bile itself, as people have mentioned, is green or dark yellow.  Pancreatic juices would be the other possibility - red.  As an aside, this is why your faeces are brown - a combination of red and green makes brown.  If you were pumping out black bile, you would see it in the colour of your shit pretty quickly.  Anyway, neither of these juices would turn black unless it was an actual disease and you'd have other noticeable symptoms.  Coagulated blood is far more likely.

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General Discussion / Re: Arranging Kambo ceremony in London
« on: August 28, 2013, 01:57:13 pm »
That's very interesting Galega.  Can you pass me a contact please?

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General Discussion / Arranging Kambo ceremony in London
« on: August 25, 2013, 06:23:48 pm »
Hi all,

It's been a long while since I have been on this forum even though I do so like the frog medicine.  The reason is that I would like to invite people to come together to invite Giovanni Lattanzi over from the Netherlands to London.  I have done Kambo on my own but feel the effects would be heightened with a trained Kambo healer.  A day would consist of auricular acupuncture and some Kambo treatments.  There's also the possibility of Kambo and Iboga sessions too.  Email me at avendagold@yahoo.com if you interested.

G

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Diet before and after / Re: hydration is key for the full experience
« on: August 21, 2012, 05:01:34 pm »
Bile can also be green in colour.  It can be mistaken for stomach juices apparently.

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General Discussion / Re: Can Kambo be Reused?
« on: August 21, 2012, 05:00:04 pm »
Interesting.  I hadn't heard about the Kambo being moved around via the lymphatic system.  If that is correct, then it explains why it takes a few minutes for the full effects to kick in.  It's passing into the lymphatic system and then into the bloodstream.  It would also potentially explain why it has such a powerful effect on the immune system.

Do you think that making burns close to prominent lymph nodes (I'm thinking under the armpit) could deliver a stronger, more effective dose?

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Journals / Ordeals / Re: Second Kambo experience
« on: August 21, 2012, 07:49:03 am »
Yes, the aloe vera gel just dries up on your skin within a couple of minutes and then stays on.  It stayed on longer than 36 hours.

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General Discussion / Re: Can Kambo be Reused?
« on: August 20, 2012, 11:16:43 am »
I've noticed that as soon as water is applied to the Kambo it goes a bit orange as you noticed.  I reckon it must be some kind of oxidation process, but it doesn't seem to affect the potency of the Kambo.  I have wet the Kambo on my stick and it still affects me after it's gone orange. 

What I think is that the Kambo dot slowly releases the bioactive peptides through the water, ie. they are water soluble (hence why it dissolves into the blood).  If the water touches something, like skin, then the peptides can be transferred (via Brownian motion).  If the water doesn't, then it simply dehydrates and the Kambo retains the peptides.

I believe that wetting the dots when in contact with the skin helps to continue spreading the Kambo peptides that haven't been in contact with the skin.  Presumably there is still a fair amount of active ingredient in used Kambo (in the centre of the dot), though less than the original.

I liken it to a tea bag.  Put it into a cup of boiling water once, and it will give you a dark cup of tea.  Use the same tea bag twice, and you will get another cup of tea, but a bit more dilute.  Use it a third time and it starts to really be dilute but you still get something from it.   I assume that Kambo is the same.  Use it a second time after moving it around in water, thereby exposing new surface area, and it will give you another hit, but with only partial potency.

All conjecture.  We need us a guinea pig! 

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Journals / Ordeals / Re: Second Kambo experience
« on: August 20, 2012, 10:58:23 am »
Worth mentioning that I applied the aloe vera immediately after the burns (after 2 hours), and kept the leaf in the fridge between applications.

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Journals / Ordeals / Re: My third Kambo experience
« on: August 19, 2012, 01:44:09 pm »
I was wondering about the rape'.  I felt like vomitting would have helped the experience.  Shouldn't it come naturally if the dose is right?  I'm guessing that if I don't just throw up, the dose is too light.

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Journals / Ordeals / Re: Second Kambo experience
« on: August 19, 2012, 01:42:29 pm »
That's right, no trace, completely gone.  It was a tip from Gloriadeo. I used the leave of a young aloe vera plant, plucked directly so the juices were fresh.  I must have applied it 3 times within the first 36 hours.

I'm using dragon's blood on my new burns so it'll be interesting to see what the effect will be.  With the aloe vera, the juice is clear so you can see the healing, but with dragon's blood, it covered up so there's no telling until it drops off, gets wiped away I guess.

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General Discussion / Re: What is too much?
« on: August 18, 2012, 04:29:30 pm »
Myco, I leave the Kambo on for one hour since this is what the Matses did with Bruce Parry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKH1O7y8WXA

I guess that leaving the Kambo on for longer allows more of the bioactive peptides to seep into the body.  Anyone else leave on for that long?

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Journals / Ordeals / My third Kambo experience
« on: August 18, 2012, 04:20:50 pm »
My third experiecnce on Kambo and phew! that was the hardest one so far.  Unpleasant to say the least.

I had prepared by fasting for 20 hours but keeping well hydrated.  I took 500mg of Iboga root bark at 11.30am, and then did 9 dots at 4.30pm.  I had also taken Kambo 4 days prior - 7 dots.

After feeling pretty bad on 7 dots and nauseated but no actual vomitting, I decided to take it up to 9 dots this time. I did the burns on my upper arm as I am not yet properly trained in meridian points, and given that it is summertime, I don't want loads of symmetrical burn marks all over my arms and legs.

I have now got a routine whereby I lie on the floor of my bathroom with a bucket and the toilet fully ready.  I applied the dots and then started the timer - 1 hour and 1 minute.  It hit me fairly quickly but I managed to get all 9 dots on, and then started feeling gradually worse.  First came the usual pink flush and light headedness, but this time I felt my throat constrict so that swallowing was almost becoming difficult.  Also, the sheer discomfort was much higher.  For the first time I starting sweating and feeling generally too warm.  It was harsh.  I managed to measure my heart.  My resting heart rate before was 56, and this went up to 136 within 3 minutes!  I was breathing hard.  It felt like an effort and made me thankful that I have a strong heart and that I exercise regularly.

It was such an uncomfortable pain that I actually considered rubbing off the points for a minute, but hey, that would be no fun at all!  So I stuck with it.  I was just sitting there for ages, with my eyes closed (I couldn't focus on stuff), not being to be comfortable in any position and just getting through it.  I tried to meditate and just accept the pain, but I couldn't help scrunching up my face in pain, and rubbing my face with my hand. 

I thought I was going to throw up but nothing happened.  The urge came in small waves but at no point did I really feel the urge.  Strangely enough, throughout the entire hour it kept coming back. 

After 15 minutes, the worst of the feelings subsided, and at 20 minutes I felt a sudden calming, centering of my whole body....which was just as quickly taken over by the unpleasantness of wanting to vomit but not being able to.  When I was lying down and swallowing, the urge to vomit was there but as soon as I sat up it disappeared.

I eventually had bowel movements after an hour.  I'd expected it a lot sooner.  It was great when the timer rang and I could finally rub off the Kambo.  Short term gains - I've noticed the pain in my foot is gone - I think I may have broken a meta-tarsal - and my cough from the last 5 days has gone down very significantly.  I didn't cough a single time during the hour that the Kambo was on.

But unfortunately, despite upping the dosage to 9 points and all that discomfort, I still didn't vomit!  Which means I'm going to have to go to 11 points next time....arrrrghhhh!   It really does take will power to put yourself through a Kambo event multiple times, especially at high dosages.  I might wait a couple of weeks...or maybe I'll just do it when it feels right.  At the moment, I can't imagine doing that 3 times in a day!

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