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Jox:
Hi all,

my thread went in a different direction but very interesting one. I wonder if it could be explored in a new thread.

in this thread by the end the discussion I am interested starts:
http://kambo.me/smf/index.php?topic=153.0

One of my main porblems with CFS, is the sleep. After physical stress, my body doesn't sleep. Nothing made it better, yet just two weeks ago something happened:

I did Kambo on Sunday and then Caapi 100mg brew on Wednesday. For a week I could take naps. For me that hasn't happened in 25 years.

I got confused, didn't know what caused it, it was not Kambo, because I did it for 6 months and it didn't produce sleep. If I do Caapi alone it doesn't produce sleep either.

Yet in a thread, I mentioned Peaceful Warrior, talks about blue lotus and dopamine interruptions.

Yet on Wiki I found out:

Dopamine is directly broken down into inactive metabolites by two enzymes, monoamine oxidase (MAO) and catechol-O-methyl transferase (COMT). It is equally metabolized by the two respective isoforms of MAO, MAO-A and MAO-B.

So in other words, MAOI, or Caapi, INCREASES the dopamine (?).

then on :
http://library.thinkquest.org/13561/english/physical.html

Dopamine is located adjacent to where Endorphin is released in the brain. And so there is a link, so that when Dopamine function declines, so does Endorphin function. Endorphins regulate pain. And so, pain increases when stress causes the Dopamine function to fail.

What would be connection with Kambo and Caapi to cause the sleep?

It seems that Blue Lotus does exactly the opposite, right? it suppresses the dopamine.

Any ideas?

I am just brain storming, but I am onto something very important for my health, so I guess I would have to practice with all this plants and Kambo to see what will do it.

Jox

peacefull warrior:
this is a very good post good job man!

i have to go out right now but later i will post a bunch of stuff this brings to mind, for now ill post these few things:

"It seems that Blue Lotus does exactly the opposite, right? it suppresses the dopamine."

blue lotus shuts down dopamine for a few hours strongly then it comes back up even stronger then it fell, and after all this wears off you get long term improvement (increase) in dopamine function.

"Dopamine is directly broken down into inactive metabolites by two enzymes, monoamine oxidase (MAO) and catechol-O-methyl transferase (COMT). It is equally metabolized by the two respective isoforms of MAO, MAO-A and MAO-B.

So in other words, MAOI, or Caapi, INCREASES the dopamine (?)."

"inactive metabolites"
this is false, they are screening activity based on a very small category of effects.

mao B inhibitors increase dopamine more than mao A inhibitors, Wikipedia has non-complete information.

mao A inhibitors also increase serotonin, witch will suppress dopamine slightly(temporary), dopamine has many more metabolites than these sites are aware of.

it can be made into an acid, and an alcohol, now if you can find out what enzyme transforms dopamine into an alcohol, you can use the ALDH + piperidine method i made a thread about here, and you would have dopamine recycle itself over and over for potentially hours/days or more at a time with a single use. 


now... if you really want to sleep, put on a nicotine patch wait 15-30 minutes and take a puff of a cigaret and lay down and go for a nap, you will have the most lucid terrifying dreams of your entire life and when you wake up you will be driven to stay awake in desperate attempt to avoid the nightmares. its not important you do this this is a lead in:

now when you feel terror(regardless of dreaming or awake), nightmares this produces the chemical that leads to quality rest, you get traumatized and eventually transcend the traumatisation by morning, this happens every night inside the shell of dream induced amnesia, so as that the benefits of facing the gorgon can be attained without it disrupting your slow plodding along life routine.


from a glance what it looks like there are a few possibilities:

kambo agonized endorphin (and serotonin by connection) short term, when this wore off around wednesday it lead to reduced serotonin effect(withdrawal), giving way to more room for dopamine to flourish(dopamine=yang, serotonin=yin when one is down it leads the other up), the caapi would increase the amount of dopamine because it likely inhibits MAO B a bit on top of MAO A. the caapi also has effects on improving dream recall similar to how cannabis and rodila roaea does, and a few other compounds like huperzine A, keep in mind always remembering your dreams = improved quality of physical and mental rest, the more you remember them the stronger this should be, you could probably use caapi every 3 or more days for dream recall the way it does so has tolerance that lasts around 3 days.


i have a few tests for you, wait at least 3-7 days after not taking caapi or any mao inhibitor A or B then eat a full can of beans to yourself, see if it makes you able to sleep, or sleepy in the way YOU need to be to get restful sleep, then report the results.

depending on how this effects you we may be able to work out an extremely low cost means of getting you good, long, physically and mentally restful sleep.

Jox:
Hey Peacefull Warrior,

I read your posts on this forum, and looked at your links. This sounds like super complicated. Do you make your own extractions?

Or better it seems I need to enhance the dopamine and endorphine levels, especially after gym time. What should I do then.

Regarding the test, I just had beans, and didn't have Caapi in a week, and nothing happened.

Yet I don't have Caapi right now, it will come any moment, then I would do it with Kambo to see if I can get back to my naps, and eventually get to sleep naturally.

But again, do you produce yourself all these things in alcohol and oils, I am kind of blown away...

Jox

peacefull warrior:
we need to determine if dopamine alone or serotonin alone will induce the easy nap state your looking for.

the cat is now OUT OF THE BAG:

look at attached image and read pdf.


actually most of the stuff in that thread is very rudamentary, if you take the time to understand a little bit of it it becomes extremely eye opening about EVERYTHING you do or eat, and how they interact with one another, everything is a variable alone and more so for every other thing in diet, im getting precognitive deja vu of having made this post in a dream before MEANING this information about how foods interact with one another (beyond what most doctors/nutritionists understand) is vitally important to one of the readers, so in the coming days i will flesh out this ifnromation grreatly, i have either had a dream of sharing this information in the past, or in the future the sharing of this information becomes greatly usefull, whenever your in the middle of doing ANYTHING and you remember a dream THINK about what you were doing when it happened, what foods you ate recently, what position you were sitting in/standing, what time it is, what you were thinking about, what you were intending on doing next, these are important to precipitating precognitory dreams and waking precognitive flashes, its usually you lived the moment in a drream or your future self is intentionall or unintentionally sending emtions related to the events consequences back to your present self, so as to steer you towards the path of least resistence.

when you lived the moment in a past dream, their are endless possabilites, a few include, you lived it in a past life and the DNA halucinations are flashing to the surface, or you lived it in a dream and the dream was caused by the infinite speed supercomputer that is the sub-concious mind taking a few small facts it is certain of (diffirent in quality from facts the concious mind takes as certain) and it takes these few certain facts and puts them into an infinite speed calculator and spits out the high probable course and gives you flasheds f the events before they occur, the way how in this post i explain 2-3 diffirent methods of achieving the same end results (in regards to precognition and such) are to be taken as a very big hint because this is an easy way to understand that these types of abilities and such are multidimensional (infinite potential means of precipitating what is qualitatively the same end results)

ideas, love, energy, light, feelings can travel through time because their vibrational frequency is EXTREMELY high wile phisical matter and others things have an extremely low vibrational frequency and are very dense so they cannot slip through the cracks.

i am pretty ill right now, i woke up with dry nasal passage and dry lungs and pit of throat, sorry about the rushed writing and crappy grammer.


ok all that shit in that other thread are not so important, if you buy natural almond extract from the grocery store and natural star anise extract, and also caffien tablets taking 20 drops (use sewing needle to poke fine hole in tin seal)  of each of the extracts and 1 caffein tablet will inhibit ALDH strongly, im pretty sure you can get caffein tablets for around 3-4$ and the other two should be 3-4$ each 

if you dont want to spend 5-10$ on L-lysine tablets you can just use black pepepr, all you have to do is put 1 tablespoon of it in a cofee filter and twist the top shut and seal it with a twist tie, boil water pour water into mug with the home made teabag in it (you must not ingest the solids for this to work) this will likely be very spicey you could use it for noodles or soup to help drink it all, L-lysine will turn into piperidine 1 hour after ingestion, black pepper tea contains piperidine ready to go as is

wondering what the purpose of all this complicated seeming stuff is?

well.....  keep the lid on this as best you can, my friend who partakes in cannabis, makes hash from his cannabis, and cooks it into food, and then he takes all these inhibitors as preparation with the right timings and the he eats the cannabis laced foods, this individual gets the same cannabis high one would get for a few hours, but in this way it lasts for about a week straight, YES THAT IS NOT AN EXAGGERATION small tiny amounts of cannabis he uses, like no more than 5-10$ worth, and he stays high for over a week at a time from a single dose when properly prepped.

timing goes like this:
hh:mm
00:00 L-lysine 1-2 gram with cup water (or wait till 00:15 and use pepper tea without solids instead of L-lysine)
00:45 20 drops each star anise extract and almond extract (both non artificial) and a 100mg caffein tablet with tiny sip water
01:00 ingest desired compound
01:15 be ready, this is not for the beginners, regardless of compound used

if you want a shorter experience that is more visual and less potent use lecithin in place of L-lysine or pepper tea this is a very good idea for beginners in this type of experience, it lasts dramatically shorter and is much easier to get used to before jumping into a multi day experience.

its actually quite entertaining to read over this now before hitting post and seeing all the slurred typing from how sick i am, lol not worth the effort to clean up.



the attachments are to large i will post the link to the torrent of the PDF containing the image and the related information

peacefull warrior:
this is the book here (http://www.amazon.com/Auricular-Acupuncture-Addiction-Mechanisms-Methodology/dp/0443068852?tag=duckduckgo-d-20)

the maker is a greedy ugly horrible person (: who would take something so powerful that costs 0$ to copy (capable of starting a paradigm shift) and charge money for it ? what a nasty fucker.

i have a copy of this i *purchased* my FRIEND downloaded it from a torrent i am having trouble finding the torrent my FRIEND found it on.

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