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General Discussion / Do you like to grow?
« on: June 21, 2014, 05:23:27 AM »
Happy First Day Of Summer Everybody!  Summer Solstice is upon us, and I've been reflecting upon the beauty and bountifulness of plants that we live in close relation with.  Plants are a part of nature I feel so intertwined with.  I imagine most people, if not all, here love and grow plants.  So what are some of your favorite plants and why?

Here's mine...

Morning glories (all kinds, especially I. volacea tricolor sisters, and I. alba moonflower). There are many entheogenic ones and are my absolute favorite flowers.  You can watch I. abla open its flower in real time.

Freesias - Plays tricks with your brain, now you smell me, now you don't.  Wtf awesomeness.

Cacti - Oh yes, one of my fav plant groups, I love the desert too.   Peruvian (Have some torches from Julio Icaros that are almost 2 yrs. Mexicans from elsewhere almost 2 as well.  And more Torches and Pedros outside. Cacti make me feel great and I love to be in their presence.

Tomatoes, Always such a delight to eat these fresh.

Other nocturnal moonplants like wormwood and fam, poppies, datura, brugmansia and many types that are solanaceous

Spices of all sorts, so many great healers in this category.

Well, I guess I love all plants and its hard to pinpoint all of them, lol, but the first two reign highest with me for flowers, and then cacti would be the next favorite plant group.

Some plants I want to get:

Peperomia's, let me know if you work with these!  They're used as an aya admixture and I'm confident they're very healing There's 1,000 species, one varietal is used as a substitute for cinnamon on the Canary Islands.  I wanna pick some up from Sacred Succulents and work with its spirit.

Banana Mint- Allegedly tastes and smells like candy banana .... Companion Plants (Great source for HBWR too, always fresh)

I would like work with the spirits of Khat and Eboka, this is a lifelong commitment with a least 5 years before fruits of labor can be enjoyed.  That's many a fruit trees for yah.

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To be honest, before I saw the meridian and point applications I had a revelation in the shower that applying to the meridians would be helpful.  You can imagine my elation when I saw that this was indeed a viable practice.  I am not very familiar with the meridians but understand there are 10 zones/meridians running through the body on each side.  I have a lot of mucous production, not sure why, and when I get colds I always have more congestion in my right nasal passage.  I would like to apply kambo to some very intentional spots next session.  Could anyone with more experience suggest a specific point or meridian line to target based off this information?  I am studying diligently for the time being.  I have some foot reflexology information, maybe I could target from the feet, that would be interesting territory, and easier for me to target since I already have charts for that.

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Kambo & Other Sacraments / Kratom
« on: June 17, 2014, 04:07:09 AM »
I hope I don't offend anyone by creating this thread, there are indeed many other places this plant could be discussed.  I am starting this because now that I have begun working with Kambo, my relationship with Kratom will undoubtedly change.  First off, let me explain that I have restless leg syndrome and have had to deal with the symptoms since I was a teenager, and have suffered countless nights without sleep.  Many years ago I went to a doctor whom prescribed something I will not mention since it does not occur naturally.  I was on this for roughly 8 years and used various other pharmaceuticals as well.  I was not happy being so dependent on an rx, and finally last summer I was able to wean myself off of the med.  I went on a spirit walk, which was a turning point, gave up smoking cigarettes as well. Cessation of smoking was not as difficult as getting off the pharmaceutical.  Getting to the point, I transitioned into using kratom at the end of the transition off the rx to help with withdrawls and underlying symptoms.

I have used these tree leaves on a daily basis now for almost a year.  My relationship with it is moderately healthy.  I can forsee myself removing this from my daily routine in the future; it is just another habit, although not as unhealthy as a synthetic substance.  I've found some spirituality in working with these trees, and they have been kind to me. 

Working with kambo, I believe it to be appropriate to fast from food as well as kratom.  I did not seem to 'need' to dose for sometime after my kambo app.  I could see some potential for kambo disrupting my usage of these tree leaves and perhaps helping in removing the daily usage altogether. 

Does anyone have any thoughts or feelings about the dynamics of kambo and kratom.  I am not opposed to kratom use, but daily use is not necessarily appropriate; I feel non-daily use can be very spiritual and I would recommend it as part of a preperation for ceremonial work.

I have no experience with eboka, I am curious about how long I would need to abstain from kratom before using that sacrament; wrong place to ask I know, but I'm kind of speaking my mind and feelings here, I know there's some wise souls here.  Please feel free to share what you think and feel about this.

Lastly, would anyone recommend a specific way to work with both sacraments?  I would Not be inclined to work with both at the same time, I would think it to be a contradiction of sorts.  There's so many active peptides, the body is purging, and these trees don't really have the same dynamics.  Seems a bit of an opposition.  However, maybe there's an appropriate incorporation somewhere maybe days after the experience?  I'm not seeking to incorporate, but am open to suggestions since I currently use it daily.

Thanks for letting me speak my mind.  :)

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Sharing of the Healers / Advice Requested
« on: June 15, 2014, 03:47:11 PM »
Dear Kambo Community,

I sincerely enjoy the plethora of information present here.  Working with medicine is a life path for me.  One of my main philosophies is that every person should have the right to healthy food and medicine.  I am a member of the Oklevueha Native American Church and have some very specific plans for the future regarding this value system.  I have decided that I want to work with Kambo and I do want to share the medicine *safely and respectfully* with others who need it.  However, we all know there is an appropriate way to approach everything.  I am humbly asking this of you Kambo community:
Please share, what you feel comfortable with, what I should be doing, where I should be looking, who i should get in touch with, what I should be reading, in order to become a practitioner and respectful holder of this medicine.  I chose to work with this medicine first on myself, to learn as much as I can, and I continue to do so.  My family is eager to work with it too, and I am grateful to have gone first and for all the wisdom i have already gained.  But...  there is much to be learned and I am requesting some direction from those of you who could show me where I should perhaps be looking.  This community is a wonderful resource, in of itself.  I thank you in advance.  I also would like to mention that I am more than happy to start sacramental and medicinal plants from seed to ensure their future preservation.  I learn about more plants that are necessary and complimentary everyday.  Some of these plants take a long time to grow, but it is part of the path I've chosen, it is part of the faith and religion as well.  Thanks for any and all advice and direction.

Sincerely,
        Eli

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Introductions / My Relationship Starts Now
« on: June 10, 2014, 03:51:06 AM »
Hello to everyone here.  It is an honor to have found these forums and I look forward to contributing to this community by way of sharing knowledge, wisdom, and experience.  My name is Eli, I've been passionate about plants my entire life.  They have been the most common element in my dreams.  I've always been passionate about all of nature as a whole.  Medicine has been one of the great aspects of this passion and since the age of about 14, I've sought out to discover as many ethnomedicines as I could find.  Ethnobotany became a deep field of interest.  This led me to discover other medicines like Kambo.  In the case of Kambo medicine, I've know of it for years, but only recently reached a place where I've wanted to really immerse myself in this field of medicine.  So, about a month ago I procured the Kambo and prepared the date to receive this.  Today was my introduction.  My chosen family and I are very close, I've my brother whom is a shaman, and my sister who is a witch, and my girlfriend who is a wonderful sheperd to the earth's plants.  My partner does not necessarily identify to any specific religion, but resonates with plant teachers and nature.  I had my partner administer the medicine.  I know of no-one who has done this before, I am the first.  I prefer to not publicly share the knowledge of this medicine, with great respect, I want to protect it.

About my experience...
We used an incense stick and put in 5 dots, I did not feel much, so we used part of a popsicle stick and put larger burns on my upper right arm, next to the first five.  Eventually as the medicine was worked in, I felt a little disoriented.  I had a subtle conversation with this very large female frog who told me I should do three more dots, but I ignored the advice.  Because of my disorientation, I don't know how much medicine I received but I chose to stop at a certain point where I was feeling poison (my own) in my stomach and I felt the likelihood of vomiting, which I knew would eliminate the toxins.  I unfortunately could not vomit even upon trying a few times to induce.  I upset my stomach but I decided to not 'force' the medicine or my body, and let it run its course.  I layed down on the floor for a few minutes and was up shortly after.  I did have my partner work the medicine in with some water and this definitely activates it.  I had her do this a few times as I was also trying to coax the purge via vomit.  I did have 6 bowel movements; the first three were bulky stools, the last 3 were peeing from my butt.  And I'm glad that I detoxed via this route too, it was very cleansing.  I am overall glad I went through with this and I am proud of my courage to do so.  I know this is a great medicine with profound effects and potential for healing.  It is my life calling to work with medicine, and this is the beginning of my relationship with Kambo.

My preperation...
I fasted from food for over 12 hours... this includes no salt
I had water, coconut water, and a little bit of papaya/apple juice (purest I could buy) shortly before the application
I consume on a daily basis, kratom, coffee, tea and abstained from these during my fast.

In conclusion...
I will not know the totality of effects until the following days/weeks have passed and the medicine fully integrates.  The next session is scheduled for 3 weeks from now, I will make sure enough is administered to induce vomiting for a fuller detoxification.  In keeping with what I've studied, all consecutive doses will be done within one moon cycle so the medicine can work at an optimum.  Very important!!!! -I will not administer during the moon being void of course or full.  I would recommend this to everyone as a good guideline.  I only read of the contraindication for full moon, but understanding the void of course bit, this is also not the best time for this medicine as well.  Better off meditating during this period and choosing a different date.

This was the first experience, there is much to be learned regarding all aspects of this medicine.  I look forward to learning more and consequently helping others learn more as well.  Please feel free to comment or ask any question you might have.  If you have any advice for application, please let me know as well.  I will continue to conduct my own research and welcome the wisdom of others.

Sincerely,

       Elijah Phoenix

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