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Kambo Protocol's => Application => Topic started by: Hip on December 16, 2012, 04:21:05 AM
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TAKING VERY LOW DOSE KAMBO INTRANASALLY (SNORTING)
Exact Method Explained
UPDATE (Feb 2013): The warning posted by KP (http://kambo.me/smf/index.php?topic=184.msg1076#msg1076), about the fact that snorting kambo can lead cause what the Indian's call "frog's disease", is one that should be considered.
UPDATE (May 2013): The following information about catching frog's disease from snorting/sublingual kambo was posted by Galega (http://kambo.me/smf/index.php?topic=52.msg1395#msg1395):
Frog disease is a viral type illnes that cannot be gotten rid of. It is unknown to the outside world. Amongst other things, it can apparently weaken the heart muscles and cause cardiac arrest and have some effects on the brain - he described it as 'eating the brain'!. Indians who snort snuff with kambo in it do so only very occasionally and always in conjunction with heavy kambo sessions so the live kambo acts as a kind of anti venom/viral. Even so, it is still considered risky he says and only for those with strong hearts and systems (eg, regular kambo users). His view is that kambo taken orally could also cause the same problem.
I have just tried some very low dose (1 mg) intranasal kambo (that is, kambo powder snorted up into my nose), and it worked very well.
Here are the details of the method I used to take kambo intranasally. It is described step by step, so that a beginner might follow it.
I bought a kambo stick from Maya Ethnobotanicals. This kambo stick is a flat and thin piece of wood, about 2 mm thick, 25 mm wide, and around 110 mm long. This wooden kambo stick is wrapped in a dark brown corn leaf for protection.
This stick had the kambo substance — that is, the dried slime from the skin of the Phyllomedusa bicolor frog — stuck to it all along one of its flat sides. The kambo substance itself looks like a thick layer of clear vanish on this piece of wood.
I scrapped off about one sixth of the kambo substance from the side of the kambo stick, by means of a sharp knife. I weighed the kambo I had just scrapped off using a digital scales, and it amounted to around 80 mg (which means in the whole kambo stick, you get about 6 x 80 = 480 mg of pure kambo).
I then finely ground up the kambo I had scrapped off using a mortar and pestle (it was already powdery after being scrapped off the stick, but I wanted the powder to be as fine as possible, to ensure good absorption when snorted into my nose).
A full kambo experience (which is always accompanied by vomiting and diarrhea) will probably require slightly more than 15 mg of intranasal kambo powder (see Romanesco's posts earlier in this thread).
However, I want to use a very low daily kambo dose of around 1 mg. This is a very small quantity to measure accurately, even on a digital scales like mine that measures down to 1 mg. So, to my 80 mg of kambo powder, I added 4 x 80 = 320 mg of an inert "filler" powder. I used a vitamin powder I happened to have as my filler powder. I tested this vitamin powder in my nose first, to make sure it did not sting on snorting it (don't use any acidic-tasting powder like vitamin C as a filler, as acidic powders will sting like hell in the nose). Something like glucose powder would work too.
I thoroughly mixed my 320 mg of filler powder with my 80 mg of kambo powder to make a weakened kambo mixer. With my mixture, 5 mg of the mixture powder contains 1 mg of pure kambo.
I weighed 5 mg of my mixture powder on the digital scales, to get a dose of 1 mg of kambo.
I then simply used a drinking straw to snort this 5 mg of mixture powder into one nostril.
Within about a minute, I started to feel tingling effects in my nose. After around 2 minutes or so, my face and all the skin on my body went bright red, as blood was flushed to the surface. (This red flushing of the skin looked very similar to a "niacin flush", if anyone is familiar with that). My heart rate went up a little, but not that much. There was no dizziness. There was no face or throat swelling at all. The effects lasted for less than 5 minutes, before the flushed skin and the raised heart beat went back to normal. It was an extremely mild experience, and it evoked no fear or apprehension at all. Anyone could do this very light dose.
At this very low dose of 1 mg of kambo, I only felt only the very slightest sense of nausea, and I had only a very slight sense of rumbling or movement in my bowels. But I was nowhere near getting sick, or needing to defecate, both of which normally happen on a full dose of kambo.
No mental state changes occurred at all during my experience: I remained calm, focused and unchanged mentally throughout. That is to say, there were no psychoactive effects at all.
My nasal cavity was very slightly sore afterwards, for several hours; but was fine by the next day. I have read elsewhere that people snorting kambo sometimes find it burns the nose a little. At the very low 1 mg dose I used, the soreness was very slight, but I expect higher doses of kambo may produce a little more nasal soreness.
What I am going to do in the near future is try a slightly higher intranasal dose, but I have no intention of doing a full kambo dose just yet.
The reason I am trying out kambo is that I hope it will treat my chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS). Kambo has significanlty improved Jox's chronic fatigue syndrome: see Jox's forum threads (http://kambo.me/smf/index.php?topic=153.0) on how he used kambo to treat his CFS. So I am hoping kambo will also help my CFS.
What I plan to do is take a very low kambo dose (1 to 2 mg) each day, rather than the full kambo dose that Jox regularly takes once every 7 days, in order to treat his CFS.
I am hoping my very low dose daily kambo regimen will effectively treat my CFS.
If this very low dose kambo regimen does not improve my chronic fatigue syndrome symptoms, then I will try going up to a full dose taken once a week, as per Jox. However, I will still probably use the intranasal method for taking kambo, even for the full dose, as the intranasal approach seems really quick, easy and straightforward to do. But if this full dose intranasal method does not improve my CFS either, will I then consider using the burn method.
One final point: I tried taking very low dose (2 mg) kambo sublingually (under the tongue) on several occasions, but this did not work at all. So for some reason, it seems the mucous membranes of the nasal cavity absorb kambo rapidly and effectively, but the mucous membranes under the tongue do not.
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Safety Warning
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Warning: There have been accounts of incorrect use of kambo leading to death.
To quote a Machineri Indian: "Our healers know how to use the frog's secretion. Now, it is being used in other places incorrectly, and this has led to the death of patients." Reference: here (http://www.ipsnews.net/2008/05/biodiversity-indigenous-peoples-fight-theft).
This should sound a strong warning to anyone considering experimenting with alternative routes of administration of kambo: you may be entering uncharted and risky territory.
Though I have been unable to find the particular details on why these deaths occurred, my guess is that these fatalities may have been caused by accidentally administering too much kambo.
Anyone who is going to experiment with alternative routes of kambo administration, such as the intranasal route, should buy a sensitive digital scales (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=digital+scales+0.001) that measures down to 1 mg (= 0.001 grams) before they begin any experimentation, in order to measure doses accurately. You can buy such a scales for as little as $15.
If you don't feel confident about your ability to precisely weigh out tiny milligram amounts of kambo in an accurate manner, then you should not experiment with alternative routes route of kambo administration.
This is because, when using alternative routes of administration, there may be a very real danger of an overdose of kambo if you do not measure your kambo dosage precisely, using a sensitive digital scales that can weigh down to 1 mg.
Kambo contains the highly potent opioid compounds dermorphin and deltorphin. Dermorphin is 30 to 60 times more potent than morphine when taken orally, and 200 to 300 times more potent when taken intravenously. (As little as 200 mg of morphine can be fatal.) Just 1 mg of intravenous dermorphin will kill you instantly. Reference: Exotic Frog Drug Boosting Racing Horse’s Performance (http://www.treatment4addiction.com/blog/drugs/exotic-frog-drug-boosting-racing-horses-performance).
One might assume that the potency of dermorphin taken intranasally will be somewhere in between its oral and intravenous potency; so one might hazard a guess that intranasal dermorphin is say 100 times more potent than morphine. Therefore, as a rough guess, perhaps around 3 mg of dermorphin taken intranasally would kill you instantly. This is just to give a very rough idea of how tiny the lethal dose of dermorphin is.
I could not find any figures for the percentage dermorphin content of kambo, but if we knew this, we could work out what the lethal dose of intranasal kambo is, from the dermorphin perspective at least.
If you read this account (http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?331-dermorphin&p=2332&viewfull=1#post2332) by a person named "SuperJunky" injecting himself with pure dermorphin, you will see he used a tiny dose of 100 micrograms of dermorphin, and found this was as powerful as heroin. Dermorphin is extremely potent stuff.
The deltorphin component of kambo is another issue, as are its other active constituents.
So be very careful with measuring out your kambo doses, if you decide to experiment with taking kambo by alternative routes, such as the intranasal route.
Remember, when you are using the normal burn method of administration of kambo, this burn method has a built-in safety mechanism, in that each burn area will I think only absorb a limited amount of kambo. So I would think you cannot easily overdose with the burn method, because the total kambo dose administered is related to the number and size of the burn areas you make and use.
By contrast, if you are taking kambo powder by alternative routes, such as snorting it into the nose, there is no safety mechanism at all that prevents you from taking too much kambo, because everything you snort into your nose will be absorbed by the nasal mucous membranes. So it is entirely up to you to precisely measure the dose you take, and make sure you don't administer yourself a lethal dose.
Therefore, it is crucial to weigh the exact amount kambo powder in milligrams before you snort it.
It may well be that doses of 50 to 100 mg of kambo powder taken intranasally might be a lethal for some people. But this is purely a guess, because we don't know the lethal dose of kambo; we need to find some reliable info on this. It seems that 15 mg of pure kambo powder taken intranasally is a tried and tested dose for one person: Romanesco has taken this 15 mg dose level several times intranasally (see his posts on page 1 of this thread). But going much beyond that dose is probably not advisable. This reference (http://www.mariri.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=1) provided by KP on page 1 of this thread says the Kaxinawa Indians snort Kambo as a snuff, but the this reference does not provide dosing information.
Finally, if you are going to experiment with alternative routes of administration of kambo, such the intranasal method, remember to observe the normal preparations before taking a full dose of kambo, which requires being on diet without solids or salt for at least 12 hours. Reference: Kambô, The Spirit of the Shaman (http://www.ayahuasca.com/spirit/kambo-the-spirit-of-the-shaman).
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Awesome post and good news, Hip!
I'm receiving Kambo any day now and am now thinking I'll jump into this method.
Does anybody have recommendations for maximum dosage? (I'll looking for a full and optimal experience, but of course to still keep it safe.) I'm thinking of starting with 15-20mg and working my way up. The thing is there's fear about going too high, and then when tolerance kicks in I'll be going even higher and I'm not sure if the safety of a dosage considers this tolerance, if that makes any sense.
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Some Notes on Weighing Small Quantities of Kambo for Intranasal Administration (Snorting Kambo into The Nose)
The quantity of kambo used in one application is very small: from 15 mg or higher for a full kambo experience, and around 1 to 2 mg of kambo if you want just a very, very mild effects.
This means if you are going to scrape off the kambo substance from the kambo stick (as described in the above post), and take it intranasally, you need a precise method of measuring out your kambo.
The best way is using a sensitive digital scales that weighs down to 1 mg (= 0.001 grams). You can buy such a sensitive digital scales surprisingly cheaply from China or Hong Kong on eBay, for as little as $15 including shipping. See here (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=digital+scales+0.001). This is where I bought mine, and I am very pleased with it.
To increase the accuracy of weighing out kambo powder on a digital scales, I found it is best to mix your whole batch of kambo powder with some "filler" powder like say glucose powder, using a ratio of say 1 part kambo powder, to 4 parts filler powder. That way, each 5 mg of your powder mixture contains 1 mg of kambo.
Then if you want to experiment with very low 1 mg doses of kambo like I do, you just weigh out 5 mg of your powder mixture, which will contain 1 mg of kambo.
If you want to go for a full kambo experience, which starts at doses around 15 mg or so of kambo, then you would weight out 75 mg of your powder mixture to get 15 mg of pure kambo.
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Does anybody have recommendations for maximum dosage? (I'll looking for a full and optimal experience, but of course to still keep it safe.) I'm thinking of starting with 15-20mg and working my way up. The thing is there's fear about going too high, and then when tolerance kicks in I'll be going even higher and I'm not sure if the safety of a dosage considers this tolerance, if that makes any sense.
I'd like to know this too:
• What is the dose (in mg) of intranasal kambo required for the full kambo effects (including vomiting and diarrheal bowel evacuation)?
• And what is the maximum safe intranasal kambo dose that you can take?
• At what dose level does kambo start to become dangerous?
• And what are the signs and symptoms of kambo overdose?
Does anyone have any information on this?
Romanesco said (on page 1 of this thread) that the 15 mg of kambo powder he took intranasally didn't quite give the full kambo experience: this amount gave him the swollen face, nausea, diarrhea, but no vomiting. He said that each time he repeated this, it was the same: he just did not vomit. So it may be that you need to take a slightly higher dose, say 20 mg, in order to get the full kambo experience, including vomiting.
Or it may be that phyllomedusin, one of the active constituents of kambo that contributes to violent purging, is not so readily absorbed via the intranasal route.
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While I'm not very attracted to this method at the moment, I would assume taking the Kambo with Rape' snuff ---That's what the Kaxinawa tribe does, or taking it with Nu Nu ---Matses method...is the appropriate path way.
Doing it otherwise I will theorize will lack essential components. I trust the indigenous methods on this one. Maybe I'll try when I have a day at hand (hard to come by).
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I doubt the Kaxinawa measure their dose. Here is where I first found out that they do it this way...
http://www.mariri.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=1
Kampú can be used to make snuff - the Indians would take scrape off some of the dried milk with a stick and mix it into tobacco. Just before going into the forest, they would take some of the snuff, and then go hunt.
Later on I learned (from somewhere?) that it is not just Tobacco but also the full Rape' which includes the Lime/Calcium Carbonate/Snail Shells/Ash from a tree/Theobroma Bicolor inner bark (Nu Nu 1/2 component). On the Nexus @ one point they have a thread on making home made ash. Very crucial information, so much so now I must hunt for it's origins...
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=34627
One would want to do around a 50/50 ratio with the tobacco for this tek...
Dorge from the Nexus:
I've been told by the Curandero I was working with that the lime I was working with was too harsh (the pink stuff from Asian Markets) and that the best for snuff was what was worked with for coca leaf. Vegetable lime, rendered vegetable ashes. Ive heard of many different ingredients used, banana skins, quinoa, cocao husks, potato skins. The plant matter is burned and ash is mixed with water and dried.
Has any one done this I wanna try it!
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Just an hour ago I insufflated around 5mg kambo. Effects became apparently almost immediately - 15 seconds it felt like (though I hadn't counted). Interestingly, they lasted for only 5 minutes! It was on the mild side (compared to a full kambo experience, anyhow)... not much nausea, but some heart-pounding, head-pounding, and mostly an intense red flushing throughout the body (and purple flushing in my hands). My nostril burned intensely, though now it's fine. I'm a little concerned of its possible effects on the nasal region, though, given right now it's very clogged. I shall wait and see how it is in the morning, and will insufflate another 5mg if there is no clogging. Good night, everyone!
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My nostril burned intensely, though now it's fine. I'm a little concerned of its possible effects on the nasal region, though, given right now it's very clogged.
I look forward to your next report, kamamambo.
What I might do the next time I snort kambo is spray some normal saline solution (physiological solution) into my nose beforehand, using a nasal spray. This pre-wetting of the nasal cavity may cushion the blow that kambo has on the nasal mucosa.
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New update!
Half-an-hour ago, I snorted more kambo...
I'm not sure how much it was, since my scale wasn't working so well. I'd eye-ball it to slightly less than 10mg, but I really couldn't say for sure. Bad practice, I know, but here's what happened:
Within 5 seconds I felt the burn in my nostril, and within 10 seconds my body flared up and my heart began to beat with INTENSITY.
Here's the real kicker!
....a couple minutes in, I start to feel nauseous, and the purging begins!
The whole ordeal lasted slightly less than 6 minutes. Interestingly, after the main effects were over - and I had this last time I snorted but non of the times I burned my skin - I felt (and still feel) the after-effects of my teeth really hurting (last time lasting about an hour, beginning only after the 5-minute main effects finished). Like last time, I'm feeling an increased mental capacity and ability to write directly after the experience.
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Recently someone on the Nexus from Brazil had this to say...
Dear Kambogahuasca Panacea and followers, I don´t recommend anyone to "walk that path" of add kambo in any rape or snuff, due to the risk of the user to get ill with the "frog´s disease", reported by a local indian shaman as a very difficult disease to cure. Thumbs down
So, don´t even try "that path". Stop
Kambo is one of the most powerful medicines and everybody must be aware the risks of using it the wrong way.Shocked
Why to take the path lane trail if you yet know and have available smooth ways to walk through?Smile
Take this warning as you wish. Full disclosure warranted.
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Thanks for posting that warning of "frog's disease" KP (that "frog's disease" warning can be found here (https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&m=422496#post422496)).
It would be nice to know what the "frog's disease" actually is (or at least its symptoms); but I imagine that it is some sort of infectious disease, from a virus, bacterium, fungus or protozoan parasite that is contained within the dried kambo, which of course is the mucus from the frog.
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thank you for posting that warning KP and thus halts my snuff use of kambo LOL
yesterday i had taken many extremely small doses of kambo by nasal, my lip slightly swelled in 1 spot but is now back to normal and i am very glad to have this info about frogs illness and will proceed with the path of least danger to frog and self.
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thank you for posting that warning KP and thus halts my snuff use of kambo LOL
yesterday i had taken many extremely small doses of kambo by nasal, my lip slightly swelled in 1 spot but is now back to normal and i am very glad to have this info about frogs illness and will proceed with the path of least danger to frog and self.
Sterilizing Your Kambo
My thoughts are that this "frog's disease", as the Indian's call it, may well be an infectious disease caused by some pathogenic microbes within the kambo.
One way that might prevent this frog's disease would be to sterilize your kambo snuff before you used it.
A simple method of sterilizing your kambo snuff would be DRY HEAT STERILIZATION (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_heat_sterilization).
The protocol for DRY HEAT STERILIZATION (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_heat_sterilization) is just heating your sample to be sterilized to 170°C (340°F) for 1 hour. This dry heat destroys microorganisms by causing coagulation of their proteins.
To sterilizing your kambo like this, you could just wrap your powdered kambo snuff (or whole kambo stick) up in some aluminum cooking foil, and place this foil in a preheated oven at 170°C (340°F) for 1 hour. That should kill any nasty microbes that are in the kambo.
Another way to sterilize your kambo samples would be using gamma sterilization (http://www.google.com/search?q=gamma+sterilization+service+cobalt+60). This gamma irradiation is often applied to our food supply, and is completely safe (you can eat the food immediately after), and the gamma rays kill any and all nasty pathogens within the sample being irradiated. So that would ensure that your kambo was free of infectious pathogens. Though I am not sure if gamma sterilization services are easily available or cheap.
Of course, it might that some other non-infectious factor causes the frog's disease. For example, perhaps some toxins in the kambo affect the mucous membranes of the nose, and so you get some nasal symptoms. WIthout knowing what the symptoms of frog's disease are, it is hard to guess what type of disease it might be.
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OK, I just put a small portion of my kambo powder in the kitchen oven for 1 hour, in some aluminum foil, with the oven temperature set to 180ºC, in order to heat sterilize it.
Afterwards, I tried out this heat sterilized kambo powder by snorting around 1 mg of kambo into my nose. This was the same dose that I snorted before. What I found was that, compared to before, the kambo had lost about half its potency from being heated, in the sense that the red flushing to my face and skin was only about half as intense compared to when I took kambo before; and I did not experience any increase in heart rate this time. But the red flushing of the face and skin still lasted a good 5 minutes, so this heat sterilized kambo was working.
Conclusion: this approach of heat sterilizing kambo may work, and if you want to snort kambo, heat sterilizing may protect you from getting "frog's disease", but you would need to use probably double-sized kambo doses in order to make up for the loss of potency.
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Thanks for the report and warning. Sounds like it might be a good way to get the healing effects with less kambo.
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any updates on people using kambo snuff and its long-term efficacy in comparison to the traditional method?
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You may be interested in my this thread (http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/669808-Experimental-Use-of-Dermorphin-to-Treat-Chronic-Fatigue-Syndrome-%97-Some-Questions?p=11435824), which details my experience of snorting pure pharmacological grade dermorphin (dermorphin is one of the main active components of kambo). Note that dermorphin can cause fatal overdoses in microgram amounts, so you need to know what you are doing before experimenting with pure dermorphin.
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More info on the FROG'S DISEASE that can arise when taking kambo intranasally or sublingually can be found HERE (http://kambo.me/smf/index.php?topic=52.msg1395#msg1395).
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Minimizing the risk of frog's disease.
Kambo may contain a brain eating virus, and therefore is generally inadvisable to take kambo as snuff.
Though if you are going to ignore this advice, and you want to take kambo as snuff, consider putting a drop of 80% alcohol 20% water solution on the snuff the day before, as this has a strong virucidal action. See: The virucidal spectrum of a high concentration alcohol mixture (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12090799). The alcohol/water mixture should evaporate by the next day, and you can then snort the powder. However, although alcohol helps destroy lipid enveloped viruses, alcohol does not work well for non-lipid enveloped viruses (naked viruses). So you might also want to put a virucide like lactoferrin or colloidal silver on the kambo as well, as these helps destroy naked viruses. See: Antiviral activity of lactoferrin towards naked viruses (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15222481).
Theoretically this may help reduce the risk of catching frog's disease.
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Hip,
UV light is known to destroy microbes like bacteria, virus, fungus, spores and most other kind of pathogens. S if we shine that light on the Kambo stick, it should cleanse the stick.
Only question is do the peptides react to the UV light and may be are rendered inactive?
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Hip,
UV light is known to destroy microbes like bacteria, virus, fungus, spores and most other kind of pathogens. S if we shine that light on the Kambo stick, it should cleanse the stick.
Only question is do the peptides react to the UV light and may be are rendered inactive?
That is a good idea, although I would like to know more about how well UV light penetrates tiny particles of material. Pathogenic microbes buried within tiny particles of kambo may be shielded from the UV light.
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I think a high wattage UV light will wipeout all pathogens. But only doubt I have is will also inactivate the peptides?
What I don't understand is, if kambo is anti-viral in itself how does is spare the frog's disease pathogen?
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What I don't understand is, if kambo is anti-viral in itself how does is spare the frog's disease pathogen?
Antivirals generally have a specific virus or viruses that they target. Dermaseptin, one of the antiviral component compounds in kambo, is antiviral for herpes simplex virus (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11782932), but not for other viruses as far as I am aware. So other viruses would not be susceptible to dermaseptin.
Other components of kambo may boost the human immune response, and obviously these will only acts as antiviral once they enter the body and ramp up the immune system.
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I think a high wattage UV light will wipeout all pathogens. But only doubt I have is will also inactivate the peptides?
It's possible, but I would not assume it. I can find no references online to UV being used to sterilize powders. UV is good at sterilizing surfaces, but powders or particles are a different category. From what I have read, powder sterilization is usually performed with heat.
I successfully used heat sterilization on my kambo (described earlier in this thread), but unfortunately this seemed to reduce the kambo potency by about 50%. So I guess you'd need to double the kambo dose to compensate.
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Cure with Colloidal Silver, Alcohol in preferred form, ormus, oxygen drops, alkaline drops for a full moon and then extract with cloth or fine mesh. Then dehydrate into final product on top of the snuff already made.
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bacteriostatic water? (contains benzyl alcohol)
It is a commonly used sterilizer and preservative for injectable medications like experimental research peptides.
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I thought it neccesary to reply to this as this post scared me half to death after i placed the tiniest film of dissolved sapo/kambo on my tongue (it burned and I felt an effect).
I believe our interpretation of the word disease is not accurate, the risk is not an infectious disease carried by microorganisms but the side effects or comedown from the chemicals in the kambo which last a few days and don't show immediately.
I am extremely sensitive to foods and drugs, if you give me a sip of tea I will sure as hell know about it. through the tongue I perceived the kambo to be active, subtle but absolutely there, and about 3-4 days afterwards my head was not right at all. I can understand the relation to 'brain eating' for sure and in higher doses I have no doubt this could weaken the heart and kill a person. however this to me is not an infectious disease and I have returned 110% to my original state of health.
It is easy to see why these effects might be described as a disease, considering I noticed a significant cognitive change (to me at least) you could say I 'caught the disease' and have recovered.
really hope this helps anyone who may be freaking out over something similar, sterilisation is probably still a good idea
look into opiate related psychosis and dermorphin
peace
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I thought it neccesary to reply to this as this post scared me half to death after i placed the tiniest film of dissolved sapo/kambo on my tongue (it burned and I felt an effect).
I believe our interpretation of the word disease is not accurate, the risk is not an infectious disease carried by microorganisms but the side effects or comedown from the chemicals in the kambo which last a few days and don't show immediately.
I am extremely sensitive to foods and drugs, if you give me a sip of tea I will sure as hell know about it. through the tongue I perceived the kambo to be active, subtle but absolutely there, and about 3-4 days afterwards my head was not right at all. I can understand the relation to 'brain eating' for sure and in higher doses I have no doubt this could weaken the heart and kill a person. however this to me is not an infectious disease and I have returned 110% to my original state of health.
It is easy to see why these effects might be described as a disease, considering I noticed a significant cognitive change (to me at least) you could say I 'caught the disease' and have recovered.
really hope this helps anyone who may be freaking out over something similar, sterilisation is probably still a good idea
look into opiate related psychosis and dermorphin
peace